Big thanks to Pete, Stu and Stephen for putting on such an awesome event. Once again I've come away with lots of new skills and knowledge. If you haven't been to one of these training days you're really missing out
i agree with above what a great day these training seems to get better and better today i finaly learned how to read a compass
which i never done before and a map loved every minute of it my ankle was playing up abit today including my knees but i tryed not to let me stop
the training welldone to those who put this together, looking forward to future training
All credit to Pete and Stu really. I was still very jet-lagged today and I worked out that I'd only had 15 hours sleep since Wednesday morning, so I was completely exhausted.
Very well structured day and lots of knowledge imparted.
Sorry I wasn't more with it, but I was almost asleep on my feet a couple of times!
Stephen
Thanks for the positive comments and for the fantastic effort made by all who attended. Nice to see so much variation in kit and weapons too and not a single comment about incorrect stitches. I actually had to miss a couple of "modules" due to time constraints but, 11 hours of full on, in the field soldiering with only a short break was, on balance, probably enough for most! The hard work you all put in to absorb and then apply so much information made the effort of organising it all worth while.
The appalling weather on saturday night initially had me worried but it all turned out nice today for us. I also hope I've shown you that a steady, paced approach to soldiering is far more accurate than running around like a bunch of idiots, only to be knackered after an hour.
I'm now looking forward to the main Jedburgh event even more than I was before!
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Thanks to all who attended to make it a great event. Special thanks to Pete, Stu, David and Stephen, and also to my driver Neill.
Learned so much, and I will be whittling down my kit even more for the real event. My nettle rash / bramble thorns are throbbing, but I'm alive!
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picking thorns from my ass as i type lol, great day. As far as training days go definatley the best i've been too. Glad everyone learned something new to take away with them, hopefully come the game everyone will be "in the zone" just like they were yesterday.
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Yet again a brilliant non-airsoft airsoft day!
I loved the idea of being 'in the zone' my knee held up better than expected - nice refresher on long forgotten boy scout skills!
enjoyed the pistol and jungle lane.....
Thanks again to pete who imparts his extensive knowledge so freely!
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What a cracking day - well done Pete (& Stu). I learned a lot (esp about my physical limitations!) and relished the delicious moment when bergens and other baggage was dumped and feeling light as a feather with just belt order. This was my only opportunity to play Jed/SAS (being part of the German command for the event itself) so I made the most of it but I have to say the comfort of German camp will be more up my street
I now have an insight into what the allies are up against and how they will cope, so I'm looking forward to making life very difficult indeed for the allies in Operation Jedburgh.
Cheers to Pete & Co for yet another fantastic training day. Each time I go to one I come away feeling I've learnt more than the last time; I guess you can teach monkeys to soldier. I enjoyed the day just as much as any game I've been to, despite little in the way of enemies. Top work to Stu for his well placed ambushes though; I think I'd rather face a squad of regular airsofters than Stu in an ambush.
Loved the jungle lane too, could happily do alot more of that.
I'm still completely knackered and aching but I'm more enthusiastic now about playing as a Jed than ever before. I need to do some more work on my fitness and readjust my kit but you can consider me signed up to the full event.
It's starting to catch up with me today, as I scrub the mud off my kit - I feel like I've been through a mangle, right down to my fingers and toes!
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and readjust my kit
Yes, I made several adjustments during the day and it soon became clear what was going to be a complete pain in the neck and get on my nerves and what worked well. And those 'just in case' items that could easily be lost to lighten the load. I thought I had rationalised it well but practically it proved less than perfect.
I also found there was a big difference in what's comfy when you're trying it all on in the dining room and what's comfy when you're crawling through brambles with Stu shooting at you.
My weebing set up is the main thing I need to change. Its ok walking about but trying to crawl through the bambles in the end excerise was such a pain that I ditched it all in the end. However I'm likely to use a different weapon and therefore different set up for the real thing.
In my pack I'm just wondering whether to ditch my plash or not. Its an immensly veratile bit of kit but its heavy compared to an IPK which does pretty much the same job and I have my zelt for use as a poncho. My E-tool I'm also not sure about; useful but heavy so I may have to look for a lightweight one.
Most of the rest I will probably keep but I will modify my pack to suit my needs better. I'm going to add at least one outer pocket to make accessing smaller items easier. I've also tried to remove the metal fram on the pack to save weight but although I can get the bag off the straps are rivetted to the frame at one end. I'm not sure i want to remove them permenantly incase it turns out to be less comfortable without the frame.
I also found there was a big difference in what's comfy when you're trying it all on in the dining room and what's comfy when you're crawling through brambles with Stu shooting at you.
Yes indeed. Ithought my zelt was in a great spot until I tried to lie prone with my pack on and fire my weapon. I couldn't lift my head up to look down the sights!
I've also tried to remove the metal fram on the pack to save weight but although I can get the bag off the straps are rivetted to the frame at one end. I'm not sure i want to remove them permenantly incase it turns out to be less comfortable without the frame.
LOL, I did the same thing! I guess there must be a good reason why you can't remove the frame - probably because a floppy sack is worse than saving a bit of weight!
While I had a structure to my kit - belt with pouches/gas mask haversack containing ammo, loaders, gloves, compass, knife/slung water bottle for fighting, separate small pack with cooking/eating kit, bergan with sleeping stuff/waterproofs/spare clothing/water for survival - I realised afterwards that I had nothing in four denison pockets or indeed the large leg pocket. Thereby proving, prior to the event, I hadn't read Pete's sage words on how to arrange and distribute kit
and so ended up with too much hanging on straps and not enough useful stuff on my person.
As Martin says, this proves the value of getting out there and doing it 'cos it ain't half an education.
LOL, I did the same thing! I guess there must be a good reason why you can't remove the frame - probably because a floppy sack is worse than saving a bit of weight!
Perhaps, but it seems illogical to me to be able to remove the bag part and then have nothing you can carry it with. I may have to stick with the frame but there is nothing to stop me from cutting off those odd annoying little sticky out bits.
I realised afterwards that I had nothing in four denison pockets or indeed the large leg pocket.
I kind of did the opposite. I made full use of my pockets but found I didn't actually use anything from the pouches other than 1 spare magazine. Admittedly I probably would a bit more on the day but yesterday it was just a dead weight. I also fund that it got in the way alot, either because of my pack or when crawling as previously mentioned. My pistol was especially annoying as it kept sliding round and as the pistol shooting proved really was a dead weight; but then so were most peoples!
Yes, I'm definitely losing the pistol. Complete waste of time.
I found the pack to be really comfy though. No need to remove the frame I felt it just sat really well. I learned as a young scout to place heavier items as close to the top and back of your pack as possible, so it might be worth looking at how you're all packing your sacks.
I did find my MP4 and mags quite annoying though, especially trying to stow the mags securely, so it'll be back to my Tommy and 20rnd mags with at 5 cell pouch for the main event.
I'll be using my rubberised German poncho for a farby waterproof layer and basha.
As for e-tool, we really only need one for the camp area for fire pits and latrines so two between the entire group of Jeds should do it.
Oh, and I'm definitely get one of the Granfors axes though!
First time in brit - i found that although the water bottle on the sling was a good idea, but it kept flopping aroud when i went prone.... belt mounted bottle for me. I was quite pleased with my CO2 ppk, (except for 12 round mags) but found the british ammo pouches a complete pain, lying on them is REALLY uncomfortable. Chommers informs me reliably that I had them far to far forward. more experimenting is needed. I dont like having loads of stuff in pockets either.... my biscuits: fruit got quite crushed
Swedish rucksack was great, not too big but no pockets for small stuff...
i didnt find the exertion too bad i feel fine today but i need to be fitter.... looking forward to the event though.
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Well, it looks like the day worked in its' aims then. You've all experienced what it's like to wear your planned gear and, what adjustments or changes need to be made before the main event.
If it's any consolation to those of you with aches and pains, I had to work a 10 hour shift today, with thighs that felt like they were on fire! I recall this kind of thing being much easier 20 or so years ago!
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Indeed it has. Personally I'm very glad I went as I'd hate to only find these things out on the day. I'm sure I'd cope but it will make things a damn sight easier.
Yes, I'm definitely losing the pistol. Complete waste of time.
I'll see how my new 1911 performs before I decide. Its always good to have a backup but if its no better than my P38 I won't bother either.
I found the pack to be really comfy though. No need to remove the frame I felt it just sat really well.
It wasn't the comfort that I found a problem, more the weight. As you say though that may have had more to do with the distribution.
I did find my MP4 and mags quite annoying though, especially trying to stow the mags securely, so it'll be back to my Tommy and 20rnd mags with at 5 cell pouch for the main event.
I'm glad I opted for the MP44; an SMG wouldn't have been nearly as much help as a crutch. I do hope my M1 carbine will be sorted by July though as I'm sure I'd be fed up of carrying it after 24 hours.
As for e-tool, we really only need one for the camp area for fire pits and latrines so two between the entire group of Jeds should do it.
I imagine one each of an e-tool, saw and an axe between 3 would suit the needs each Jed team and help keep the pack weight down. I was carrying both a saw and and an E-tool.
I was carrying both a saw and and an E-tool.
I was carrying all 3! Folding spade, folding saw and an axe. No wonder my legs hurt! Of all of those, the folding saw was the most useful when preparing the debris shelter and harbor area demo. You can always dig a hole with your hands or a stick, if the ground is soft enough and, an axe is only really useful for splitting wood and limbing logs, whereas a folding saw has a few uses (and is lighter too!).
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