Feck we've been invaded by the grungie punters 
Who let the riff raff in ?...Chommers ..... 
kidding aside welcome Ben
Partisans and Russkis will be mixed into together , we also have two/three organisers plusthe two/three site owners on the partisan side. Should be enough to coordinate 20 players 
BTW i wouldn't expect Gadge to be present , his back killed him at CR.
Youd think so wouldnt you 
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Whats Russian for "sheep ..follow me"
Whilst the game wont be scripted as such , it will be closely planned to ensure there are contacts and people don't wander off & get lost. Most of the actions will probs take place within 800m of each other .
Fair dos.
Personally I'd like to stand at the back, wave and large Red flag and shout through a megaphone but I guess I'll save that for a future Mcdonalds job
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Standing at the back, waving a large red flag. Now thats kinda given me an idea. What if at some point in the weekend a person is "delegated" to be the Commissar when assaulting a position? A Commissar who will - in the finest traditions of such a role - shoot those who retreat...
Just a thought 
When we were a Kingdom it was run by a King
When we were an Empire it was run by an Empress
Now we're a country we're run by a..........
Could do but its not Stalingrad or Moscow so usually they were rounded up and then shot 
Mind you at that point in the war they were kind of figuring out that shooting your own troops wasnt so good for the war effort. Gulags were far more effective.
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Feck we've been invaded by the grungie punters Who let the riff raff in ?...Chommers .....
Shit, I scared myself then - I thought my permissions adjustment hadn't worked as I can view the forum from Ben's POV and I couldn't see this section, so assumed I would have to do it another way.
Then up pops Ben in a 'private' section and had a mad panic checking I hadn't let everyone in! Feck, that would piss off 95% of our members!
Oh, and welcome to the inner sanctum Ben!
Kermit mentioned this lot in an open post, might be a good angle to hang the story on ? Other than I can't have a "Boris the Bastard" 
Bielski partisans
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The Bielski partisans (the official name was changed several times) was the largest group of the Jewish partisans in the course of the World War II who fought against the Nazi German occupiers and their collaborators in the area of Navahrudak and Lida in Belarus. The group was initially organized by members of the Bielski family.Contents [hide]
1 History
1.1 Formation
1.2 Organization
1.3 Activities
1.4 Disbandment
1.5 Post-war
2 Notes
3 References
4 Further reading
5 External links[edit] History
The Bielski family were farmers in Stankievichy near Navahrudak, an area that at the beginning of WWII was under Soviet control. Following the Germans' "Operation Barbarossa" invasion of the Soviet Union beginning on June 22, 1941, Navahrudak became a ghetto.[edit] Formation
The Bielski brothers: Tuvia, Alexander Zisel "Zus", Asael, and Aharon, managed to flee to the nearby forest after their parents and other family members were killed in the ghetto in December 1941. Together with 13 neighbors from the ghetto, they formed the nucleus of a partisan combat group.The group's commander was the older brother, Tuvia Bielski (1906-1987), a Polish army veteran and graduate of a Zionist youth movement. Tuvia "would rather save one old Jewish woman than kill ten German soldiers."[1] He sent emissaries to infiltrate the ghettos in the area, recruiting new members to join the group in the Naliboki Forest. Hundreds of men, women, and children eventually found their way to the Bielski camp, which ultimately numbered over a thousand inhabitants, both civilians and fighters.
[edit] Organization
The partisans lived in underground dugouts (zemlyankas). In addition, several utility structures were built: a kitchen, a mill, a bakery, a bathhouse, a medical clinic for sick and wounded and a quarantine hut for those who suffered from infectious diseases such as typhus. Herds of cows supplied milk.Artisans made goods and carried out repairs, providing the combatants with logistical support that later served the Soviet partisan units in the vicinity as well. More than a hundred workers toiled in the workshops, which became famous among partisans far beyond the Bielski base: tailors patched up old clothing and stitched together new garments, shoemakers fixed old and made new footwear, leather-workers worked on belts, bridles, and saddles. A metal shop, established by Shmuel Oppenheim, repaired damaged weapons and constructed new ones from spare parts. A tannery, constructed to produce the hide for cobblers and leather workers became a de-facto synagogue because several tanners were devout Hassids. Carpenters, hat-makers, barbers, watchmakers served their own community and guests. The camp's many children went to dugout school. The camp even had its own jail and a court of law.[2]
[edit] Activities
The Bielski group's partisan activity was aimed at the Nazis and their collaborators in the area, such as Belarusian volunteer policemen or local inhabitants who had betrayed or killed Jews. They also performed sabotage against the occupying forces. The Nazi regime offered a reward of 100,000 Reichmarks for assistance in the capture of Tuvia Bielski, and in 1943 led major clearing operations against all partisan groups in the area. Some of these groups suffered major casualties, but the Bielski partisans fled safely to a more remote part of the forest, still offering protection to the noncombatants among their band.The Bielski partisans were affiliated with Soviet partisans in the vicinity of the Naliboki Forest under General Platon (Vasily Yehimovich Chernyshev). Several attempts by Soviet partisan commanders to absorb Bielski fighters into their units were resisted, so that the Jewish partisan group retained its integrity and remained under Tuvia Bielski's command. This allowed him to continue in his dedication to protect Jewish lives along with engaging in combat activity.
The Soviet partisan leaders split the group into two units, named Ordzhonikidze, led by Zus, and Kalinin, led by Tuvia. According to partisan documentation, Bielski fighters from both units killed a total of 381 enemy fighters, sometimes during joint actions with Soviet groups. [3]
[edit] Disbandment
In the summer of 1944, when the Soviet counteroffensive began in Belarus and the area was liberated, the "Kalinin" unit comprising the Bielski partisans, numbering 1,230 men, women and children, emerged from the forest and marched into Navahrudak.Asael Bielski served in the Soviet Red Army and fell in battle at Königsberg in 1944.
[edit] Post-war
After the war, Tuvia Bielski returned to Poland, then emigrated to Mandatory Palestine in 1945. The surviving Bielski brothers eventually settled in the USA.There are currently two books written solely on the Bielski story: Defiance by Nechama Tec and The Bielski Brothers by Peter Duffy. The group is also mentioned in numerous books about this period in history.
The Bielski Partisans were celebrated in a 2006 History Channel documentary entitled "The Bielski Brothers: Jerusalem In The Woods," written and directed by filmmaker Dean Ward.
oops did come across this as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL4MjT-H7LU
plus did the Jews work with the Red Army ?
Oh, and welcome to the inner sanctum Ben!
Ta. I only noticed this area when i clicked on View New Posts and spotted it. Guy mentioned he'd have a word at getting me access so I figured ... meh.
As far as Im aware (and Im by no means a top expert) the Soviets didn't start their ideological purges (ie snuffing out religion as a whole) until sometime in the 60s. It wasn't part of communist party doctorine but it was allowed so I guess Jews could have fought for the soviets. BUT the Jews were blamed for a lot of the countries problems (much like in germany) during the revolution 25 years earlier (see Fiddler on the Roof for more details ). I guess in times of crisis you takes what you can gets.
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I'd just like you all to know that I'll be growing a beard for this.
Its ok mate. I think Grizzly Adams was on the other continent
Besides one strong gust and it'll blow away
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he he - I also stopped shaving last weekend for the Chetchen thing ! Mind you it'll have ot come off ofr TEHL .
(another one ofr the spellchecker please CW)
if we set this in May '43 I reckon it would give us plenty of open options ?
2-3 weeks will be plenty of time to nurture a face-merkin.
Sounds good. A time when the Germans were about as far as they were gonna get and the Soviets were just about breaking even.
Where is this mythical place supposed to be? Kursk area?
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Orginially I pitched toward Kiev , but Belarus is a good as any .
Possibly a bit too far north maybe? Belarussia didnt fall until 1944 apparently
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:East ... 943-08.png
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Partisans......behind enemy lines, emboldened by the fall of Stalingrad ? Aided by Soviey troops coming through the lines ...
The impression I get from the sources I've read is that unless the soviets were making a push, there weren't any soviets behind the lines unless they were scouts. (and thats a specific unit type, not just a recon squad or something)
Ok it might be nit picking but jus trying to get a good footing
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A lot of the partisans were ex soldiers trapped behind the lines after the pushes of 41-42, making the idea of soldiers living in the woods of Bellarus organising locals into partisan bands quite likely . Not to say they wouldn't be dressed in civvies as well , you could read that either way .
have a butchers here :-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_par ... st_Belarus
Large numbers of partisans organised by the Red Army into brigades and supplied from the soviet. The thing that comes across is the organisation and size compared to say the Maquis.
Practically speaking if you've got 4-5 players in Russian kit ( I doubt they'l be more for a first game) and 15 -20 coming as Partisans , then it would work quite well . if there are feck loads of Red Army , then it's a Red Army behind the lines job aided by Partisans.
Ooooh Right. I thought you were having Partisans AND regular army as two separate units (ie Soviets vs Germans with partisans in between). Thats why I was trying to tie the two together. What youve said now makes much more sense
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