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dadio
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will a 1911 fit in the standard webley holster or is there another brit holster for it?

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Posted : 19/05/2012 5:04 pm
Joshua Rose
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I have a Tercel 1911, and it fits in my std '37 holster fine.

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Posted : 19/05/2012 7:00 pm
fremsley
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Mine doesn't. However, I got a Canadian 37/44 patt one form sabre which fits. Its very much like the 58 patt one. Do you need one for next week?

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Posted : 19/05/2012 8:12 pm
dadio
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no its not for me and there's no rush ,a mate just asked and all i can find is some do and some dont which has just been re-enforced by you'r answers :giggle: but i found costa fortune are selling of a badly made batch that will fit the 1911 because the press stud is in the wrong place so that seems to be the answer,cheers guys

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 19/05/2012 9:20 pm
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I'm probably going to explain this badly (and could be wrong), but I seem to recall reading that there are 2 types of '37, one with the fastner off-centre (the most common) that fits the 1911, and another with the fastner in the middle of the flap that doesn't.

Anyone else heard this?

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Posted : 19/05/2012 9:29 pm
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If it's any help, the discounted holster on CostaFortune does fit the M1911a1. £10 +delivery. Though having bought one I was less than impressed with the quality of the brass belt connectors on the back, as they were a bit too wide for the P37 belt and I had to bend them into place.

Probably better sitting on ebay for an original one, most got for about £15-£20.


 
Posted : 20/05/2012 2:06 am
fremsley
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or give sabre sales a bell

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Posted : 20/05/2012 9:17 am
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, but I seem to recall reading that there are 2 types of '37, Anyone else heard this?

http://www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/1937/ ... pment.html

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Posted : 20/05/2012 11:03 am
dadio
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i recon the mis-made costa fortune one is safest bet,that way at least its definatly gunna fit rather than tossing a coin on an original that might fit.

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 20/05/2012 11:08 am
fremsley
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, but I seem to recall reading that there are 2 types of '37, Anyone else heard this?

http://www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/1937/ ... pment.html

Weird. Can't seem to find mine. It has an external (metal lined) spare mag pocket.

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Posted : 20/05/2012 4:59 pm
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I had problems getting my 1911 into an original one, however I soaked it and just left a dead Glock 18c in it for weeks and eventually the webbing stretched enough so the Colt would fit nicely.

Isn't the one the external mag holder a 58 pattern Browning HP holster?

Cheers
Martin

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Posted : 21/05/2012 1:20 pm
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Weird. Can't seem to find mine. It has an external (metal lined) spare mag pocket.

Isn't the one the external mag holder a 58 pattern Browning HP holster?

Probably either a '44 patt (with the cute little popper closure) or a surplus '37 patt type as converted and supplied to the Danish:

'44 Patt

Danish coverted '37 Patt (The one in the photo was originally a blue RAF 1943 dated holster!)

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Posted : 21/05/2012 10:23 pm
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I'm probably going to explain this badly (and could be wrong), but I seem to recall reading that there are 2 types of '37, one with the fastner off-centre (the most common) that fits the 1911, and another with the fastner in the middle of the flap that doesn't.

Anyone else heard this?

As well as the fairly obvious 2 flap types, there were also considerable size differences between different manufacturers.

I think I've got 5 '37 patt holsters now, and they're *all* different sizes!

 
Posted : 22/05/2012 11:42 am
dadio
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quite a lot of genuine 37 pattern stuff has been subject to shrinking in storage probably caused by damp but it can be stretched again by wetting and packing it out inside then drying,may explain some of the size difference the rest is due to different manufactures etc.

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 22/05/2012 1:15 pm
fremsley
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Weird. Can't seem to find mine. It has an external (metal lined) spare mag pocket.

Isn't the one the external mag holder a 58 pattern Browning HP holster?

Probably either a '44 patt (with the cute little popper closure) or a surplus '37 patt type as converted and supplied to the Danish:

'44 Patt

Danish coverted '37 Patt (The one in the photo was originally a blue RAF 1943 dated holster!)

Thats the baby - 44 Patt with external mag pouch! Ta.

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Posted : 22/05/2012 8:22 pm
fremsley
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quite a lot of genuine 37 pattern stuff has been subject to shrinking in storage probably caused by damp but it can be stretched again by wetting and packing it out inside then drying,may explain some of the size difference the rest is due to different manufactures etc.

Cheers Gav. I might do that as i can't use a 1911 on my 37 patt one - keeps falling out when running (ok strolling then).

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Posted : 22/05/2012 8:25 pm
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Probably either a '44 patt (with the cute little popper closure) or a surplus '37 patt type as converted and supplied to the Danish.

Thats the baby - 44 Patt with external mag pouch! Ta.

No problem. Glad I could help :)

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Posted : 22/05/2012 8:26 pm
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Comrades,
My RAF Blue Webbing Service Revolver didn't fit an Ameriksoyi 1911 but my Army Khaki Webbing one does, so there are two types of Holster one more "Universal" than the other which only took the Service .38 Enfield Weapon system.

 
Posted : 23/05/2012 9:06 am
MartinR
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Ah,mine was an ex-RAF one. I stretched it and now if fits 1911 fine.

Cheers
Martin

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Posted : 25/05/2012 10:15 am
 stof
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I have one of each type , give it a thorough soaking (or blancoing) pop the 1911 into a plastic bag ,force it into the holster ,and when it dries it should fit fine.Worked for me.

 
Posted : 25/05/2012 11:49 am
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