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Ramsay00105
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Looking at Steve's guide again I think I understand some of the confusion.
The officers uniform's shewn really apply to WWII only up to the end of 1940 for the battle order of SD. The walking out SD is worn all through the war but only in some rear areas or on leave. The picture coming from the pre war, first year part of the guide.
The long puttees are not worn with battledress. Short puttees (around the ankle only) are worn by some officers and units. A black beret is from the armoured corps and you would need a cap badge to suit. A helmet would be worn in action.
If your friend can specify when and what unit he wants to depict we can help with more detail.

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Posted : 26/08/2012 1:58 pm
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Okay, in summary, my friend wishes to be a generic officer, that can wear Long puttees as he is not too keen on wearing gaiters or the short puttees, that's pretty much it, a generic officer that can wear long puttees.

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Topic starter Posted : 26/08/2012 2:14 pm
Pete_59
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Obviously your friend can wear what he wants, it's his money and his choise, what he'll have to accept is that it's not what an officer would have worn, I'm not trying to be negative just trying to give an accurate picture of what a WW2 officer would have worn if your friend chooses to do his own thing them thats up to him.



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Posted : 26/08/2012 2:46 pm
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Obviously your friend can wear what he wants, it's his money and his choise, what he'll have to accept is that it's not what an officer would have worn, I'm not trying to be negative just trying to give an accurate picture of what a WW2 officer would have worn if your friend chooses to do his own thing them thats up to him.

I understand what your saying, my question is would it be allowed in WW2 games... If it can then everything is just dandy for me.

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Topic starter Posted : 26/08/2012 2:55 pm
Pete_59
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The level of kit accuracy will vary from game to game but in general what you've got will be fine, have a look at the picture threads of previous events and that'll give you an idea of kit being worn, the key thing is to get to an event as that's what this is all about, actually getting out there and taking part, I notice that you are both 16 unfortunately because of legal and insurance issues a lot of games are 18+ however you'll be ok to attend Gunman games the next one being the Gothic Line in November, the good thing with Gunman is that he has uniforms & kit to loan out as well as WW2 guns, although you will also find that lots of people will happily lend stuff on a 'you bend it you mend it' basis. So don't get to hung up on being super accurate just get out there and play.



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Posted : 26/08/2012 3:39 pm
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The level of kit accuracy will vary from game to game but in general what you've got will be fine, have a look at the picture threads of previous events and that'll give you an idea of kit being worn, the key thing is to get to an event as that's what this is all about, actually getting out there and taking part, I notice that you are both 16 unfortunately because of legal and insurance issues a lot of games are 18+ however you'll be ok to attend Gunman games the next one being the Gothic Line in November, the good thing with Gunman is that he has uniforms & kit to loan out as well as WW2 guns, although you will also find that lots of people will happily lend stuff on a 'you bend it you mend it' basis. So don't get to hung up on being super accurate just get out there and play.

Pete_59, thank you, now that this has all been cleared up we can put this thread to bed, it'll be an honour to meet you all in the future.

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Topic starter Posted : 26/08/2012 3:43 pm
Devonshire Trooper
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Looks fine. I'm not sure about your mates puttees though - surely a pair of anklets/gaiters would suffice. Probably a good idea to get a cheapo brodie style helmet (placcy ones available on ebay - covered with a helmet net they look fine) as his SD cap may restrict him in games where he needs to be one of the footsloggers.

Thanks for the input, my friend didn't like the look of the gaiters so I went hunting and found this picture of World War 2 Officers in both "walking out" dress and "battle order" dress, the one on the left is walking out and the one on the right is battle order, the link to the forums it's on is here: http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthre ... itish-Army

the fella in the gaiters is a good friend of mine

Is that Ade? I can't tell, lol.

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Posted : 27/08/2012 8:30 am
 Yith
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To be honest, your friend would be a lot better dropping the officer idea altogether.

Normally the only officers allowed at games will be the organisers, so he'd need Other Ranks kit anyway.

Also getting officer kit right will cost quite a bit more than getting ORs kit.

BTW, the chap on the left of the pic is a good friend of mine, heh.

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Posted : 30/08/2012 2:10 pm
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I can't persuade my friend otherwise, and his kit was cheaper than mine, his will cost £185 and the vast majority of it is new, mine cost over £200 and mines OR.

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Topic starter Posted : 30/08/2012 2:14 pm
Poacher
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so I went hunting and found this picture of World War 2 Officers

I think the intention is that these are pre-war officers looking at the kit and insignia.

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Posted : 30/08/2012 2:37 pm
 Yith
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I can't persuade my friend otherwise, and his kit was cheaper than mine, his will cost £185 and the vast majority of it is new, mine cost over £200 and mines OR.

Problem is, his will then cost £x00 extra if he wants to attend any more strict event in it as Officer kit will likely be disallowed.

It's a false economy.

Yes Poacher, that is what I thought as well. Cobden is a fan of pre-war stuff and in fact is mostly doing WWI these days.

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Posted : 30/08/2012 2:54 pm
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If your mate insists on being an officer he'll have to accept the fact that some organisers won't let him attend their events thus attired and he'll need to buy OR stuff anyway :D

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Posted : 30/08/2012 3:31 pm
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