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Gadge
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Yeah but it might be a bit politically bad taste that one mate...





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Posted : 14/11/2008 7:13 pm
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i dont see why,,, according to the book the germans treated the poles as a regular volunteer army and treated the prisoners generally quite well, they were sent to prison camps not death camps and many of the survivers on both side say it wasnt an extermination even tho it was ruthlessly put down. at one point it was touch and go for the germans.


 
Posted : 14/11/2008 7:26 pm
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You sure, i'm pretty sure they drafted in SS extermination squads with flamethrowers at one point.

I dont know if i'd be happy doing a warsaw ghetto game ;(





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Posted : 14/11/2008 7:34 pm
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they used ss troops with flame throwers at arnhem,,,,i was surprised too, i thought it was just a massacre , but apparently the german commanders fought it as a conventional battle, although like i said it was ruthless, but not the extermination we are led to believe, prisoners were taken and the wounded treated with compassion. it was just a thought thrown into the hat.


 
Posted : 14/11/2008 8:02 pm
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Ah, i think we are talking at cross purposes gadge, i am reading about the partisans accounts of the warsaw uprising of 1st august 1944 . there were some atrocities agianst civilians, but on the whole these were by romanian troops. i think you are thinking of the warsaw GHETTO uprising of 1943 witch ended in unspeakable slaughter and terrible reprisals. you are right mate. its too easily confused. bad idea.


 
Posted : 14/11/2008 8:18 pm
Gadge
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Hahah, yes.. crossed wires indeed.

I see what you mean now.





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Posted : 14/11/2008 8:19 pm
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FWIW, regarding flamethrowers - the Allies used them far more extensively than the Germans. :wink:



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Posted : 14/11/2008 8:52 pm
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Its not so much using flamethrowers, it was the dirlwanger brigade raising the ghetto to the ground with them and torching civvies...





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Posted : 14/11/2008 8:55 pm
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the stuff i am reading. ( its downladed from the net, a mate printed it off, thought i might be interested in it) the romainian troops (and some german units) murdered about 50 thousand civilians in a few days. the german commander( whos name escapes me at the moment ) threatened them with the russian front if they carried on. after that the germans started to treat the partisans like a conventional enemy and even spoke of them with respect, the poles were a little flattered by this to say the least. at the end of the fighting the germans took many prisoners and gave them geneva convention rights.on at least one occation the germans were on the back foot and had a new found respect for the poles. one german veteran is even quoted as saying they could have won without any trouble at one stage but they just lacked the edge that dissiplined regular troops have. if the russians had not held back it would have been all over for the germans.it came that close at one point.not bad for a partisan irregular force. but,, i digress............... back to game scenarios.


 
Posted : 14/11/2008 9:01 pm
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How about Operation Archery, 27 December 1941 against German positions on Vågsøy Island, Norway

Conducted by 3 Commando with elements from 2, 4 & 6 commando and Norwegian Independent Company 1 (SOE).

Primary objective was the destruction of fish oil production as it was used in the manufacture of high explosives.

The surprise element was, unknown to British intelligence, that there was an experienced unit of gebirgsjäger nearby on leave from the Russian front which put up much greater resistance than was expected.




 
Posted : 15/11/2008 11:00 am
Steiner
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That sounds interesting, Pete. (Just need some snow!)



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Posted : 15/11/2008 11:06 am
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i cant think of the name of the op, but it was the first brit parachute mission to blow up an aquaduct in italy.........they all got captured but tony dean-drummond escaped (as did a few others) to fight another day at arnhem( where as we all know he was captured and escaped again) this might be an idea, needs a bit of reserch tho, i can remember seing a documentary about it on the history channel.we wouldnt need to wear para reg cap badges, as at the time they only had maroon berets and wore the badge of their parent unit.


 
Posted : 15/11/2008 12:27 pm
Pete_59
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Operation Colossus :good:




 
Posted : 15/11/2008 12:31 pm
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thats the one pete.


 
Posted : 15/11/2008 1:25 pm
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I'd also quite happily sell a kidney for a decent Op. Sealion game, complete with Home guard and sleepy english coastal village. :lol:


 
Posted : 15/11/2008 4:22 pm
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I'd also quite happily sell a kidney for a decent Op. Sealion game, complete with Home guard and sleepy english coastal village. :lol:

now your talking , can i be sergeant wilson please ? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


 
Posted : 15/11/2008 4:27 pm
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Heh... yeah a home guard game would be great... :)


 
Posted : 15/11/2008 4:39 pm
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it sure would, glengaries and leather gaiters all round :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


 
Posted : 15/11/2008 4:43 pm
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How about this for something different, Fallschirmjager vs SS. :shock: Yes it really happened!

Men of the 8th Parachute Division were called upon to neutralize a group of die hard SS and German Partisan's (Werewolf units) in the first days of May 1945. They dug themselves in within a forest called Forst Segeberg in Northern Germany. They were intent on battling against 2 Battalions of the British 11th Armoured Division. In Flensburg on the German/Danish border, Admiral Doenitz, now chief of state after Hitler's death, ordered them to surrender. When they refused Doenitz dispatched some splinter groups of the 8th Parachute Division to deal with them. Under the eyes of the British, a fierce battle broke out between the two German forces. The remnants of the fanatical SS Kampfgruppe surrendered a couple of days later.


“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942

"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942

 
Posted : 17/11/2008 1:34 am
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That sounds brilliant, it'd add a different edge to it woundn't it and it would mean that everyone would have to really have a look before they shot someone...Plus I suppose you could use British units in supports couldn't you?


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CRY HAVOC AND LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR

 
Posted : 17/11/2008 2:05 pm
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