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Boshman
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Originally posted over on the PST! forums.
[link]http://www.panzergrenadier.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=15639[/link]

Great bit of film and I was very interested to see at 2:19, during the marksman training the soldat is shooting left handed! :o Obviously southpaws were not in fact forced to shoot righthanded!

amateur movie from a German soldier in the Landesschützen-Bataillon 278, based in Bussum (the Netherlands) showing all aspects from their training. Very interesting to see is how casual everything is going, far from the propaganda we are used to see. Might also come that the Landesschützen were more second rate soldiers. The units were filled with mostly older men not able to fight in the frontline...well...untill the frontline came to them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkEmwhJRt2k


“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942

"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942

 
Posted : 14/10/2010 9:31 am
Steinlager
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Whats the gun he's firing at 45 seconds into the film, looks a bit like a BAR?


 
Posted : 14/10/2010 9:39 am
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Yes it certainly does! maybe a captured Belgium FN Mle D? It's the sort of thing they might issue to second line troops.


“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942

"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942

 
Posted : 14/10/2010 9:45 am
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Or the Polish version - as I am sure they appropriated their's after '39.

Nice video, very interesting.


 
Posted : 14/10/2010 10:15 am
Boshman
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Or the Polish version - as I am sure they appropriated their's after '39.

Nice video, very interesting.

Indeed! the Belgium FN was based on the Polish Wz. 1928. It's definitely one of those two as they both have the pistol grip.


“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942

"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942

 
Posted : 14/10/2010 10:31 am
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Interesting stuff. Looks like they're using G98 rifles too.


 
Posted : 14/10/2010 11:35 am
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Oooh - they all take their field caps off by grabbing the bills :shock:

I thought that was Streng Verboten!


 
Posted : 14/10/2010 3:51 pm
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Heh, unfortunately for them in those days they didn't have forum keyboard warriors to tell them how to do it properly. :giggle:


 
Posted : 14/10/2010 4:46 pm
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Heh, unfortunately for them in those days they didn't have forum keyboard warriors to tell them how to do it properly. :giggle:

:rofl:

Blimmin' amateurs.

I also like the shot of all the old fellas wearing their WWI EK2 ribbons listening to some bloke telling them all how to be soldiers :roll:


 
Posted : 14/10/2010 5:09 pm
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Oooh - they all take their field caps off by grabbing the bills :shock:

I thought that was Streng Verboten!

I think it was walking out dress that the 'cap' was not held by the bill and it was simply habit as a result of that that prevented them (not all the time clearly) from grasping the bill of the field cap.
Someone remind me what the hats/caps are called in walking out dress. :oops:





 
Posted : 15/10/2010 8:42 am
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Someone remind me what the hats/caps are called in walking out dress. :oops:

Ausenlaufendressenmutzen... or something

Yes, it must be something like that as even the officer in the film grabs the brim.

From WAF
This pinch crease was explained by a gentleman who had served as a reservist lieutenant with the panzers on the eastern front, I don't know that this is law, or a hard and fast rule, but he is sharp and doesn't tend to make up details. The pinch crease, according to him, was due to the officer's desire to not have fingerprints on the leather brim of the schirmutze. The cap was picked up and removed by grasping the peak of the hat(he means the front of the crown), eventually forming a crease. He remembered officers losing leave privileges during peacetime for have their brim all smudged up. The crease in M43 was probably a carryover due to the image conciousness of the german soldier to look sharp and like an "old timer". I have seen pinch creases sewn into post war army M43 type caps


 
Posted : 15/10/2010 11:51 am
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Ausenlaufendressenmutzen... or something

Try and fit that on your hat as opposed to beret or kepi!


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Posted : 15/10/2010 11:59 am
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That's german for you - never use a short concise word if you can make up a stupidly long one


 
Posted : 15/10/2010 12:01 pm
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and that's before you even get into technical german - engineering/construction etc

You need DIN A1 size paper just to fit the words on a technical design of a nut and bolt :lol:


 
Posted : 15/10/2010 12:06 pm
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Or the most memorable word from GCSE German -

Videocassettenrecorder!

:D It always makes me smile


 
Posted : 15/10/2010 2:51 pm
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Sorry for going off at a tangent, but wasn't German simplified a few years ago as even Germans were finding tenses etc impossible?


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Posted : 15/10/2010 5:37 pm
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It's certainly becoming more anglicised and they seem to be phasing out things like the ß character as it doesn't appear on most keyboards.

Fortunately for GCSE schoolkids they show no sign of changing words like "dick" and "Kunst" :giggle:


 
Posted : 15/10/2010 5:45 pm
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Hurrah! BTW I can help squeeking with laughter every time I look at yer passport photo! Na na na nah. Na-na nah nah etc etc


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Posted : 15/10/2010 5:51 pm
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