Correct collar tabs?

If you want to wear it early war I'd suggest mounted litzen, probably in the colour of your arm of service or waffenfarbe. This is the type http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-GERMAN-ARM ... 4855eab41e .
But not these, http://militaria-net.co.uk/oscommerce/c ... p-273.html they are mounted but they are embroidered. The real ones were bevo woven. The ones you have you could mount on the green backing and use this?
The generic green stripe bevo type came into use after December 1938 but were not really seen on uniforms in an unmounted style until the 1940 pattern tunic appeared.
Mid 1940 saw the introduction of the grey on grey generic type.
Although new styles and colours were introduced the previous types were not withdrawn and pre '38 mounted types could be seen to wars end.
I once thought there was a third, late war generic type, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/German-WW2-Ar ... 3a78467ae9 but I can't find any support for their wartime use.

Hi, I'm just looking to portray a generic German infantryman and I'm not looking at any specific period. I was just worried that it mean I'd belong to an elite division or something like that, but as they don't I'll probably just leave them as they are.
Thanks.

I've had various tunics with various Litzen, and I have decided to stick with Litzen similar to what you have there, Dejan. As Poacher said, early war some still had the embroidered and mounted ones (see my avatar pic!), but the generic BeVo type you have was introduced about 1938, so is accurate for all periods of the war. In addition, because it has no Waffenfarbe (colour to indicate arm of service), it means you can represent any type of Heer unit. If you wanted to change your impression from (say) Infanterie to Pionier, all you need to do is change your shoulderboards (which all had Waffenfarbe).

As Steiner says, the main thing is to go with generic waffenfarbe so you can just swap shoulder boards for different impressions. I have got both mounted and unmounted litzen on different jackets.

There are some nice close ups of various collar tab styles from Oddballs 'Dirty Dozen' game last summer here:

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if you just scroll down a bit.

Cheers
Martin

I As Poacher said, early war some still had the embroidered and mounted ones (see my avatar pic!),

No, I didn't.
I said avoid the embroidered ones, they are modern dealer fantasy as far as I can work out.
Mounted litzen were the normal bevo type sewn to the green backing.
http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Heer/photos/H006069.html
Those just happen to have infantry waffenfarbe but are the correct 1935 pattern.

Sorry, I misread it. Mounted and BeVo.

Thanks guys, you've been really helpful, I like the fact I'll be able to just switch the shoulder boards to change regiment.
Thanks.

The first aid pocket inside the front of the tunic is very handy for storing various shoulder boards.
You can get a dressing and a couple of pairs of boards in there.
Green for grenadier, white for Infantry and black for pioneer cover most of the Airsoft roles I have seen used in games.

On a slightly related topic: for the non-mountaineering jäger units - the so-called "light infantry" units - the litzen was a light green, similar to the gebirgsjäger and the skijäger. Did these regular jäger units also wear the oak leafs on their left(?) arm, or was that restricted to the gebirgsjäger guys?

Good question, awaiting the Poacher....

I cant help on that. Gebergs stuff is something I have never looked into in any depth.
I like looking at mountains but wither at the prospect of climbing them.
The books will be at home and I'm in France so I cant even look it up for you.

Have posted a detailed query on panzergrenader.net, hopefully a strong answer turns up. Preliminary searching seems to indicate that the regular, non-mountain Jäger units also had the oak leafs on their caps and tunics.

There is a Jäger arm badge, thus:

And a metal badge worn on caps.

On a slightly related topic: for the non-mountaineering jäger units - the so-called "light infantry" units - the litzen was a light green, similar to the gebirgsjäger and the skijäger. Did these regular jäger units also wear the oak leafs on their left(?) arm, or was that restricted to the gebirgsjäger guys?

Come on then, who didn't spot the deliberate mistake here? Badge worn on the right sleeve, not the left.
Kit for the jager was very similar to the gebirgsjager, even down to bergmutze and mountain boots and puttees.

Come on then, who didn't spot the deliberate mistake here? Badge worn on the right sleeve, not the left.

Well me

Kit for the jager was very similar to the gebirgsjager, even down to bergmutze and mountain boots and puttees.

So just a Gebirgsjager Lite then

I've struggled to find much information on the jager divisions, but as near as I can tell they were very similar to the Gebirgsjager divisions in establishment but without the mountain climbing and survival training. I think they had more motor transport and that sort of thing, but that doesn't interest us much in this context.
They were intended as the link between regular infantry and mountain infantry divisions. I suspect that the Germans also spotted that the Gebirgsjager had performed well in a lowland role (despite their reduced manpower levels compared to a standard infantry division) in Russia in particular and wanted to expand the number of similarly formed divisions to do a similar job. Hence the increase in the number of jager divisions mid war.
Kit wise, Gebirgsjager Lite seems a good description actually.

I think we are going waaaay off-topic here... *notes original topic title*

My reading of the Jäger divisions also puts them between the regular infantry and the GJ, with less artillery and motor transport, but more automatic weapons for urban environments (think it is the wikipedia page on the German Jäger units that states as much). Makes sense to me from an airsoft perspective, where we are severely lacking in artillery and motor transport - but have plenty of automatic weapons!

The first aid pocket inside the front of the tunic is very handy for storing various shoulder boards.
You can get a dressing and a couple of pairs of boards in there.
Green for grenadier, white for Infantry and black for pioneer cover most of the Airsoft roles I have seen used in games.

Thats great for changing the your shoulder boards for different roles, but the litzen would still have the waffenfarbre for whichever unit you badged the tunic too originally. If you go Late war SS/Heer Pz Totenkopf litzen and changed the boards you'd be better getting away with it. But then youd have options for inf, Pioneer, Pz Gren, Recce, PZ Trupen Arty etc.

The litzen with the waffenfarbe were pretty much few and far between for enlisted men by the time the war started. The generic types, first introduced in 1938, had taken over. You see examples in Poland of the coloured type, even some in France but by far the most common were the generic types. The coloured litzen would be, like a green collar was later, a sign of an old hand or reserved for walking out.
For us thats the joy of the generic litzen, introduced before the war and suitable for all periods of the war and all arms.