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Andy does like to be different tho :lol:

 
Posted : 01/01/2009 1:59 pm
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Oh buttocks. Just found a photo (couldn't find one before), and you're right - they appear to be placed underneath the rivet. Ah whatever... I'll probably paint over them - they were less than a tenner delivered.


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Posted : 01/01/2009 2:24 pm
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Sehr gut.

 
Posted : 01/01/2009 2:47 pm
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Top efforts both of you. :good: Yours looks particually well worn Martin.

I've nearly finished my helmets now- just need to get a luftwaffe decal for my M38 so I can finish it off. I would have done the same as you with the decals Andy but thankfully I hadn't got round to ordering them! :lol:
The symbol I've put on my M42 isn't in exactly the right place either since I put the camo first and got carried away- half covering the correct position. :slap: I can live with it though as its not an offical decal anyway so wouldn't be subject to any regulations (well thats my excuse anyway :mrgreen: ). I will try to get some pics up later.

 
Posted : 01/01/2009 5:37 pm
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Right heres the pics of my finished M42. I'm pretty happy with it but may touch a few bit up that I'm not 100% happy with. I applied the camo scheme using a cloth but I think if I went back and did it again I'd be tempted to use spray instead.

This is my M38 so far. As I said I need a LW decal before I can finish it off- hence the plain patch under the rivett.

I also did my belt buckles whilst I was at it.

What do you folks think?

 
Posted : 02/01/2009 12:56 pm
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Excellent work on both the helmets and the buckles :good: :good: :good:

I think a lot of people try to make their cammos look a bit too "perfect"-yours look spot on.After all most of them would have been done crudely out in the field and not factory done.

 
Posted : 02/01/2009 1:09 pm
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Cheers Taffpara. I guess the things I'm not happy with are probably the bits that make it more realistic. :slap: :lol:

 
Posted : 02/01/2009 1:24 pm
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Nice. The M42 looks especially top-notch. Half of the skill with these things is knowing when to stop. If you keep tweaking you sometimes end up screwing it up.

£19.99 for an Amazingly Useful Trolley as well - shame I can't read the contact number.

 
Posted : 02/01/2009 2:15 pm
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Too true. I find I never know when to stop.

Oh and the number is 0844 701 0055. :D

 
Posted : 02/01/2009 2:46 pm
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As said before this sort of thing was mainly done in the field using whatever the mans mind could come up with, i imagine boot laces would have been used to hold cammo or anything that could be tied onto the helmet, and any paint, mud, oil, blood, burning, charcoal, to change the colour. if you use pine sap and mix it with anything with colour mainly different soils/sand/ash you can get a good in the field look, lets face it who would be carrying paint with them? and who would bother going looking for it, also i think most of it would not be perminent
so i say whatever you think looks good is ok
to but a bump on some of the pics they look more like an aged look rather than a cammo effect one looks like it could have been dug out of the ground 10-20 years after 1945, i would think that helmet covers came about to stop troops moding there helmets

 
Posted : 03/01/2009 1:58 am
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Rewind a little please - cross of iron 2 ???

Don't go there - I mean it!

*sigh* OK, it was an appalling sequel, starring only one of the original cast (Kruger), although half the characters were still in it, all looking completely and utterly different. Keppler had turned evil, and Steiner was played (awfully) by Richard Burton. He did not much more than march about the place, shooting more of his own (bad) Germans than he did Americans. It was so bad that it was overdubbed in German and never released with the original English sound.

Apart from that..... it was OK...! :lol:

the film is called Breakthrough and you can buy it on VHS at amazon for £5

 
Posted : 03/01/2009 6:18 am
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As said before this sort of thing was mainly done in the field using whatever the mans mind could come up with, i imagine boot laces would have been used to hold cammo or anything that could be tied onto the helmet, and any paint, mud, oil, blood, burning, charcoal, to change the colour. if you use pine sap and mix it with anything with colour mainly different soils/sand/ash you can get a good in the field look, lets face it who would be carrying paint with them? and who would bother going looking for it, also i think most of it would not be perminent
so i say whatever you think looks good is ok
to but a bump on some of the pics they look more like an aged look rather than a cammo effect one looks like it could have been dug out of the ground 10-20 years after 1945, i would think that helmet covers came about to stop troops moding there helmets

Troops would use whatever they could lay their hands on - and photo evidence shows clearly that they got their hands on paint. Heer helmet covers were almost unseen before 1944, and not that common post 44 either.


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Posted : 03/01/2009 12:32 pm
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Well inspired by Steiner and the fact I'll never been happy with my helmet, I've been to hobbycraft and returned armed with paint and sand to sort out my lid. Goodbye SS and hello Heer. upside is I can stick a cover over the Heer lid and be back as SS. Result.


 
Posted : 03/01/2009 4:40 pm
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I've painted over my decals - I figured that if the helmet had been repainted anyway, that's what would have happened.


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Posted : 03/01/2009 4:49 pm
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and any paint, mud, oil, blood, burning, charcoal, to change the colour

I'm going to use blood next. The blood of next door's BARKING DOG THAT NEVER SHUTS THE F*** UP.

 
Posted : 04/01/2009 3:01 pm
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Heer helmet covers were almost unseen before 1944,

Where did you dig that up from? There is good evidence to show there was a good issue to troops engaged in the Stalingrad battle. Not everyone not even 50% but check the pictures. They were there.

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Posted : 04/01/2009 11:02 pm
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Just on what I have seen in books. I've got a good book on GD, whom I thought would be one of the best supplied regiments, but there weren't any photos of helmet covers before 44. I am of course happy to be proved wrong, old bean. :)


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Posted : 04/01/2009 11:25 pm
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I've finally finished my m38 as thought my original attempted looked kinda crap so I started again.

I also added a half basket to my M42;

 
Posted : 25/01/2009 2:15 pm
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That looks way better with the basket love it great work.

Taking inspiration from the last battle sequence of cross of iron my helmet (painted a latewar dark green) has just been splattered with mud which has dried and caked which looks alright, although I realy like splinta camo so I still prefer a helmet cover.

 
Posted : 25/01/2009 2:20 pm
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Nice job on the half basket :good: I know they can be a real pain to do.

 
Posted : 25/01/2009 2:26 pm
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