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spiers
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Well I know that Tom is Dog Co. like me, so respraying the helmet would probably not be super good haha I wasn't disputing the helmet insignia just that it wasn't right for the jacket insignia.

Also yes you are right about the helmet insignia, they were actually about half the size of the average one you see on most airsofters helmet...on BoB they were made larger because it was a bit like a brand along with the screaming eagle patch. But I won't be respraying mine any time soon...

Mind you, now I look back at the pic, it was only an Open Day so not really a massive problem...

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Posted : 20/02/2010 8:24 pm
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While I'm on, might as well pop a pic up...

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Posted : 20/02/2010 8:35 pm
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And while you are being picky....
Extra pockets on a jump jacket was very much a 506th thing too. Mr Guth started it off.
Not seen any details that show extras on 82nd M42s.

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Posted : 20/02/2010 8:45 pm
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ah okay, i'll rebadge

and i know, hence why i have the one the size of a 50 pence piece on my helmet. :?

it may look bigger because im quite small. but honestly, its a £100 helmet from stand-up-hook-up, and not a self done job.

therefore i really don't want to f*ck it up and try and re-spray it.

and poacher, yep i know, this was the '101st jump suit' from Sof, but i decided to rebadge as 82nd and i thought that the extra pocket would be handy for my jeep cap :good:

Now a 'namsofter. I have an M72 L.A.W. for sale for 110 posted, PM if interested.

 
Posted : 20/02/2010 8:59 pm
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and about bushey, i should be but it might be that i dont have an RIF as i would get the train up :good:

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Posted : 20/02/2010 9:00 pm
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Cos dog company is so short of weapons. Lol. I m sure we can sort you out.

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Posted : 20/02/2010 10:46 pm
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And while you are being picky....
Extra pockets on a jump jacket was very much a 506th thing too. Mr Guth started it off.
Not seen any details that show extras on 82nd M42s.

While my limited knowledge is tempted to agree with you, Rollins over at ATF doesnt

""506th" Jackets
Price $125
In many period photos of the 506th taken during the fighting in Normandy, a notable percentage of their jumpsuits had been modified by the addition of extra pockets. We have modified some of our jackets in similar fashion by adding extra pockets to the sleeves and the skirt. We also make sure to add a 101st patch. These modifications are detailed on page 32 in the Michael De Trez book, "The Way We Were The Band of Brothers", featuring 506th E Company member Forrest Guth's original uniforms.

Pockets do NOT match! The spare pockets are made from different batches of material. It is the same 8 oz. cotton twill as the uniform, but the shade varies. This is historically accurate- in WWII, this was not done at the factory.The individual troopers cannibalized worn out jump jackets for pockets and then stitched them onto theirs. Often by hand. Not only were they likely a different shade, but the originals were heavily worn too. Talk about mis-match- how did they ever fight a war like that. Eeew! If this shade difference offends your sense of fashion and is unacceptable to you, then do not order one. We do not have matching fabric so no matter how loud you scream, matching pockets won't happen.

The 506th was NOT the only unit to modify their jump jackets. Some troopers in all of the parachute regiments modified their jackets- in numerous ways. Not just like these. Calling them"506th jackets" is simply an easy way for us to identify these."

While I dont really care whose right I just thought that was an interesting note.




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Posted : 20/02/2010 11:22 pm
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Notice he is careful to not to say 'the other troopers in other units sewed pockets on their tunics'? "Modify" does not only mean add pockets. Is that why Rollin qualifies his position with 'not just like these'?
Rollin is in the job of selling kit not correcting re-enactors mistakes, though he does try sometimes.
Guths tunic features all kinds of mods. Part of a bandoleer to hold cigarettes, pockets on the rear tails.
Love to see some 82nd troopers with extra pockets, not seen any so far. I dont remember seeing it outside Easy company 506th, thats why people call them 506th jackets.
I think this is another one of those do/be the norm situations?

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Posted : 21/02/2010 12:20 am
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Pockets do NOT match! The spare pockets are made from different batches of material. It is the same 8 oz. cotton twill as the uniform, but the shade varies. This is historically accurate- in WWII, this was not done at the factory.The individual troopers cannibalized worn out jump jackets for pockets and then stitched them onto theirs.

mate, things like this is the only reason why i do airosft, not reenactment.

cheers for the heads up about all units having modification, does help alot.

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Posted : 21/02/2010 12:48 am
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I thought Dog Co did re-enactment as well? Either way its never a bad thing to learn new things.

Poacher: Like i say it makes little difference to me but I have to say I think Rollins is usually pretty spot on. I'm actually tempted to do a bit of trawling and research later. I got a great Michel De Trez book on US Airborne in Normandy last month that got a quickl persual but might be worth a good look now.




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Posted : 21/02/2010 9:34 am
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Some interesting themes on this topic here;
http://ww2reenactors.proboards.com/inde ... 402&page=1

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Posted : 21/02/2010 10:49 am
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I thought Dog Co did re-enactment as well? Either way its never a bad thing to learn new things.

Dog Co. do, do reenactment events, but we represent the airsofting side of it. We were very popular at the Bushey 40's event along with a lot of Reenactors, portraying many nationalities and units. So much so that the organisers invited us back twice...

Needless to say, I can understand the concept of removing the pockets from old jumpsuit to reuse and my shoulder pocket IS hand stitched on...however I won't personally be taking it off to stick in through the wash half a dozen times.

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Posted : 21/02/2010 2:56 pm
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A picture of my M43 uniform with TM Thompson. Taken yesterday during the commemorative 82nd airborne memorial march. La Gleize is just to the left of the picture. Next to the church stands the Könings Tiger.
The chevrons need to be replaced as my replica, binoculars and map pouch indicate I'm of higher rank than a pfc :wink:

Good looking kit, might want to consider tucking the strap of the General purpose ammo bag underneath your belt, stops it from bouncing around and depending on when you are portraying...Market Garden: the first aid pouch strapped to the helmet net. Bastogne: Probably not at all, by the time they were in the Bulge, they had bugger all medical supplies let alone anything else.

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Posted : 21/02/2010 9:14 pm
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Thanks for the advice! :good:
Hadn't thought about the medpack. Indeed, they did not have much back then when they went to Bastogne. But... can the same be said about the 82nd? They were not cut off and had safe supply lines :wink:

Haha sorry, went back in to 101st mode, no, probably not as badly supplied but I'm pretty sure the 82nd were still in combat at that time...just in another part of Belgium.

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Posted : 22/02/2010 10:12 am
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Market Garden: the first aid pouch strapped to the helmet net.

Reeeeeaaaallllllyyy?



 
Posted : 22/02/2010 10:29 am
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The chevrons need to be replaced as my replica, binoculars and map pouch indicate I'm of higher rank than a pfc

i can't see a PFC being issued a thompson anyway.

well, from what i know they weren't anyway. :)

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Posted : 22/02/2010 11:09 am
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I don't know about in reality (not being an expert in US stuff by any means), but in the film "Big Red One" a private has one all the way through. :)

I don't think they were necessarily an officer's or NCO's weapon.

 
Posted : 22/02/2010 11:42 am
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there are worse things to be called, I get called Wayne Rooney (big ears and spud-like head), I only wish I was as good at football!

 
Posted : 22/02/2010 11:48 am
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I only wish I was as good at football!

You are, Matt!

In your dreams!


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Posted : 22/02/2010 12:04 pm
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aha, cheeky!

and yith, in all seriousness you would refer to a film for historical accuracy, but as far as i am aware they were for officer's and NCO's.

Now a 'namsofter. I have an M72 L.A.W. for sale for 110 posted, PM if interested.

 
Posted : 22/02/2010 3:28 pm
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