Well I've pretty much said what I felt needed to be said. I think I'll leave it at that
With all the worry about dentist fees, I`d like to add that the last time I hit myself in the mush with a spanner and cracked my tooth, it cost me £22.50 to have it pulled. Less than the cost of a weekender.
Thats £22.50 that could of be used to buy more kit 
A good quality facemask will set you back £22.50.
A good quality facemask will set you back £22.50.
I think I will get one 
You dont even need one that expensive!
bear in mind that a removed tooth is just £22.50
if (like many) you would rather have it replaced you can either
A: wait on the NHS until they see fit that you've suffered enough
B: Shell out up to (and possibly in excess of) £200 to get it done privately.
Now THAT's better
"DENTAL SAFETY! CURRAHEE!"
armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well
Now THAT's better
"DENTAL SAFETY! CURRAHEE!"
That about sums it up B+H 
I've played 9 airsoft games (all WWII) in total and been hit in the face which has drawn blood three times. So a 33% hit rate but then I'm rubbish. It's part of the game and actually adds to it in my opinion (not in any weird S&M way I hasten to clarify) but the sense of danger and necessary caution are important aspects. I worried about my teeth before hand and have a gumshield but have never worn it and doubt I will despite my head clearly being an obvious target.
But to answer something BedsndHerts says I try to make as big an effort as possible on kit (I'm not saying I always succeed) and I love the efforts that other people go to but items of modern kit do catch my eye and work there way into my brain. And I guess that's what the immersion aspect is about it is when something strikes you and throws you or diverts from what you have been doing. Personally I always feel I'm in some weird Dr Who episode when I see face masks and my mind wanders - and I get shot in the head!
There is nothing that can be done about the audio aspects of the guns or the limiations of them but so many other things can be addressed. I am glad I wear whenever possible ammo boots because now I realise how bloody useless they are for walking on anything other than soil, occaisonally I'll wear DMS if it's clear I may end up with a badly bruised lower spine as I did after Mace because of too many smooth concrete floors. But to be honest injuries are what is to be expected with physical activity - if you want harmless WWII fun then I undertand that there are computer games.
I have a small skewer hidden in the collar of my jumping jacket, and a razorblade in my gaiter, as well as my knife.
I've attended 27 ww2 events + 4 or 5 training days and I'm not aware of anyone losing any teeth, yes there's been any number of people, (including myself), who've ended up with welts on their face, sometimes bleeding sometimes not, (unless you're Che in which case you're guaranteed to end up with blood running down your nose 
), no one complains or makes an issue of it as , (in theory 
), we are all adults and understand and accept the risks, if you want a risk free life I suggest you wrap yourself in cotton wool and go to bed for the rest of your life, did you know that 5,945 Britons were hospitalised by trousers in 1999, almost 5 times more than for chainsaw-related injuries, so when you look at it airsoft is a lot less dangerous than trousers I don't see any suggestion that we stop wearing trousers 
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- if you want harmless WWII fun then I understand that there are computer games.
Not so harmless when you consider the risk of spraining your thumbs, proving that no hobby is entirely risk free. 
All a matter of personal choice and your perceived personal risk standards,I hate the look of fullface masks but I don't like things being banned ,many brave men died to preserve our freedom of choice.
If the minute chance of one little plastic ball out of thousands fired hitting me in the teeth bothered me that much I would wear a togue or a scrim scarf round my face,I don't wear a cycle helmet, I have worn the absolute minimum crash helmet on motorbikes for the last 40 years - and yes I have been injured because of it - 27 stitches to sew my nose back on !
I can understand the worry of ones good looks being damaged but it is something I relate more to teenage girls not guys who are pretending to be soldiers 
I have never considered myself pretty so it doesn't bother me ,if getting a little ball in the face bothers people that much maybe they need to grow some bigger ones 
After reading this thread I think I understand why people prefer to play computer games rather than live in a real world .
Sent from an imitation reality device from behind locked doors incase someone comes in and hurts me, and I won't be going out in case I get run over .
The thing that gets me about this whole thread is that people seem to be disproportionately concerned about damage to their face/mouth/teeth.
Now here's the thing. We've run events in tunnels, around dilapidated buildings, in old factories, on 2000 acre 'rough-as-fuck' forestry commission sites and on grassy hills. We've had moving vehicles, rocket launchers, mortars and large explosives. We've run games in 30c searing heat and -10c freezing cold. We've played at night and during the day.
Over the 8 years I've been doing this I've seen many injuries: broken bones, smashed-in knees, torn muscles, deep cuts, third degree burns and concussions. I've seen people suffer from heat exhaustion. I've seen people so pissed they can't walk and have barely made it home the next day after lack of sleep. Hell, Pete59 almost drowned after walking into hidden pond - and I almost died laughing when I found him there.
Now, I've seen quite a few welts on the face, but only one serious one when Rhys had a BB lodged in his chin for a week! I've never seen teeth knocked out.
If your biggest worry in this game is getting a small cut on the face or a chipped tooth, then I think you might need to reassess your risk awareness.
If you're worried about a tooth being knocked out, then just keep your mouth shut during fire fights.
Alternatively, go to an event where they let you wear a mask and knock yourself out. Bad choice of words there.
I think that the event photo's say it all.
Take this one as an example, many have commented that this could almost be mistaken for an original period photograph. The shooting glasses are barely discernable, suspension of disbelief fully accomplished!
Now imagine if these two fine chaps had been wearing facemasks... well then it would just be yet another photo of a couple of airsofters in WW2 kit!
I rest my case!
“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942
"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942
I must admit that photo made me reassess my eye protection, having gone from glasses that fogged to horrible bugged eyed mesh I have eventually found some that are near enough invisible and dont fog. But I was inspired by others (and that pic) to do so, not forced. Hopefully many of the newer players coming in will reassess their need for facemasks given time.
I confess in that picture i'm actually wearing mesh glasses, though as i'm looking away from the camera i've got away with it!
Anyone having issues with fogging of glasses should just get one of these: http://www.polimil.co.uk/ess-clear-zone ... cloth.html
They work perfectly.
My other mask issue is lack of peripheral vision. I once tried to get the attention of someone in a mask by waving at them. I eventually had to throw and fir cone at them. What else are they not seeing?!
Anyone having issues with fogging of glasses should just get one of these: http://www.polimil.co.uk/ess-clear-zone ... cloth.html
They work perfectly.
I agree, however they are much cheaper if you buy them on ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270991372193 I bought 2 and they cost £4.48 including postage, (it would have been £2.49 for 1).
or fog-teck wipes work well but i've yet to try them on the hottest days when its poring off me.
armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well
or fog-teck wipes work well but i've yet to try them on the hottest days when its poring off me.
The ESS ones never steam up, though you may get sweat dribbling down the glasses, but that's probably because I use the prescription inserts.
I'm thinking of getting prescription inserts how much are they?
