GMA Game Price Discussion

Definitely up for "Caen" but not the other one. £85 to play at Redditch is just too painful.

Sorry a few guys think the £85 is too much, Gunman prides itself on quality and value for money and we put a huge amount back into all our events in Pyro, props, senario and warm welcome.

I think £85 is a bargin, most modern events are £85 and all I hear from players that have gone to these events is where has our money been spent. At Gunman you can see where your money goes as we are dedicated to your weekends fun.

I hope this gives you the reasurance to still come matey, we have an awesome senario for the 'Road to Caen' weekend, the site is some 600acres with long roads all over it perfect for a columb of trucks to travel along.
Two days of 2ww action with consequences for both sides at Caen if their objectives aren't met.

I know the Redditch site only too well Josh, I helped build the bloody thing, so am fully aware of its' size. I was a paintball site manager there AND I ran airsoft games there as well (well before anyone else did and before politics put an end to it). No matter how much pyro and props you supply (good though I know they are!), I know that the sites' real owners (National Paintball Games)will want their cut, the person who pretends he owns the site will want his cut as well as he tries to jump on the WW2 bandwagon. THAT is what's put the cost up. It's not a question of money, I have more than enough to get by, it's a question of value for money, which I don't believe a game at Redditch (which is just another woodland paintball site) will give at £85 per head.

Anyway, I digress. As I said, myself and hopefully a few of the 9th SS crew will come along to the main Caen game for sure and I'm certain you'll lay on a great event for that.

Well I wouldnt mind paying over the odds for a spectacular location (good fibua village, beach etc) but for £85 I'd want more than a woodland site seeing as most other woodland weekenders are around the £45 mark and single days being about £25.

Carentan looked good, D-day *was* a good location, likewise fibua villages like senny are attractive.

If its out the ordinary i dont mind the little bit extra as i know these locations are not cheap.

Personally we (pbi) run our events at cost and just charge the sites green fee plus a fiver per head to cover props and pyro, BUT in fairness we're not a business, its ahobby, Gunman obviously is a business and needs to make a profit.

Gadge, could you move the price topic to a new thread mate, This is a good discussion but not on my events calender, I dont have the ability to do it.

Dave from Skirmish is sorting out the price to run 'The road to Caen' The price is the final amount, more details are to follow and a discount for early payment will also help bring the price down (as ive done on all the event GMA runs) Pay before bla and get the event ticket for x.

The sheer amount of vehicals I'm trying to get on site will also be a cost (not just bangs) so I still think the event price is worth it. I totally understand Sgt. Hiede's issue howeveras his envolvment with the site was more than just playing on it. 'It sounds like total heart ache mate and your not alone in the disapointment department when it comes to effort put in with no thanks and building up a site then having to pay to play on it' It does suck abit;)

I also agree with Gadges point for a basic woodland skirmish site, but I'm not running a skirmish event. Thats like highing a town hall and charging £5 for a Bingo night then paying £30 for the same venue to go and watch an established band. At the end of the day Gunman is selling entertainment and an experience not a run around and shoot! I hoped PBI would want to get stuck into 2009s Brit battles, but fair enough if its too much on the dollar.

Anyhoo
I think I'm done defending my prices lol and cant wait for 2009 to get going;) Ill get the booking forms and event info sorted asap.

2ww for the win;)

I get what your all saying, I personally cant afford £85 + travel costs for a game, which is why I dont attend Gunman games.

I think my opinion falls most in line with Gadge. Yes, you're paying for an experience, but it needs to have the substance or location to justify the price.

Playing at MOD urban sites, or having vehicles rolling around for the weekend [or both] make a game worth that little bit more. There would be few instances when I would drop £85 on playing at a standard woodland site [on top of travel, booze, and food].

However, book a large woodland site and get 2 or 3 jeeps and some german hardware rolling around, it steps up the experience and makes it worth it.

I'm holding you to the german armour you mentioned at Carentan Josh... I need to justify this kit

Might catch you at Matlock.

lol, give me a chance bud, got to find a chassis first !

The road to Caen will feature as many vehicals as I can get my hands on for both sides.

I get what your all saying, I personally cant afford £85 + travel costs for a game, which is why I dont attend Gunman games.

Hi matey, if payments are in before the price change it will be cheaper. As for not attending our games because there £85, Ive only just put em up lol and we price games from £26 - £150 depending on what were running, the numbers involved and the site were using. £85 isn't our standard price and wont be.

blah blah blah! I will save up and be there!!! with my jeep!
see you there Josh!
Doc Mac

Hi, I went to DDay +2 and thought it was good value for money, but then if I was skint I would be more critical (but still happy as it was excellent) so the general economy and personal expectations have a lot to do with it!

I can't come because most of the Gunman games are too far south. Why not do some games in the North West so I can come

Great news from the front, due to the price of the site being more resonable than the first quote...good blag by Dave the Mish, we can run 'The Road to Caen for £75, £65 if prebooked before Feb 09.

Booking form will be posted up tomorrow.

Payment via paypal sales@gunmanairsoft.co.uk or cheque payable to FILMSIM Ltd.

when i first started playing airsoft, the only site we knew about was Ground Zero in ringwood. which for those that havent been there is where operationhaggard was run, its a large woodland site, with a good amount of buildings and basses added in. but anyway im getting away from the point...which is:

on any given skirmish day (thats a one day only affair) it wasnt uncommon to spend £100 a day on just getting there and signing in, thats before ammo food and drink, as well as all the other acutriments, and we did this on a fortnightly bases, so £85 for a WEEKENDER with (if a fine mess are there) provided for an extra £15 or so i dont think you can moan really.

but if that hast convinced ya, then hey ho never mind. everyone is diferent as is their budget! Airsoft is a hobby and should be treated as such, in my opinion...if you want to do something ,you will! if you dont, you wont!

anyway, thats my lil input

when i first started playing airsoft, the only site we knew about was Ground Zero in ringwood. which for those that havent been there is where operationhaggard was run, its a large woodland site, with a good amount of buildings and basses added in. but anyway im getting away from the point...which is:

on any given skirmish day (thats a one day only affair) it wasnt uncommon to spend £100 a day on just getting there and signing in, thats before ammo food and drink, as well as all the other acutriments, and we did this on a fortnightly bases, so £85 for a WEEKENDER with (if a fine mess are there) provided for an extra £15 or so i dont think you can moan really.

but if that hast convinced ya, then hey ho never mind. everyone is diferent as is their budget! Airsoft is a hobby and should be treated as such, in my opinion...if you want to do something ,you will! if you dont, you wont!

anyway, thats my lil input

Jesus if you're spending a £100 on an open day thats mad.

I think I spend between £20 and £30 tops.

Take your own BBS and food, contribution to petrol and green fee. *never* comes to more than £40 at the most.

Gunman.....i have never been to one of your game days and been disappointed.....and i can say that from all the boys in Lazy company / suffolk, mystery of mullhouse was a fantastic event with a twist at the end, keep it up and look forward to seeing you soon, well worth the money.

Gunman.....i have never been to one of your game days and been disappointed.....and i can say that from all the boys in Lazy company / suffolk, mystery of mullhouse was a fantastic event with a twist at the end, keep it up and look forward to seeing you soon, well worth the money.

thank you mate.

Bloody hell Jeff thats a lot of money for a days play.

You poor buggers

one of the many reasons why my call sign used to be psycho!

To be honest, i was a skeptic, before i attended the Carentan Game. After just getting into WW2 airsoft in the summer i went from £45 (CiA) to £85 (GMAN).

Before that i was spending between £35-50 on modern open days. I remember my first open day last year, i spent £100 over the course of the day. Its cheaper now i have my own supply of BB's, and buy bulk pryo. I was having fun.

I sent josh a PM a few weeks before i paid for the event. I asked him just what am i getting for my Money. I was reassured by him that it would be a wkend to remember. He was right, Its certainly down as my best ever Airsoft game.

Gotta remember that these aren't every week things. So spending £75-85 on a wkend Airsoft event (before travel) is like a wkends going out drinking for me.

For that money you get Location, Atmosphere, great people, big bangs, and in my case lots of dead germans.

If the event was right i would travel to a different country.

For that money you get Location, Atmosphere, great people, big bangs, and in my case lots of dead germans.

I'm not disputing that, for venues like Catterick, Longmoor, Sennybridge, etc, £85 for a weekends' play is pretty much the norm and therefore acceptable and I will happily pay that amount just for the "experience".

But Redditch? I know that site REALLY well (having helped build most of it and managed it for years and ran the first airsoft games there). You're NOT paying for the location with that one, it's just a normal woodland site with nothing different to offer, so it's totally inaccurate to compare it with a venue like that used for Carentan. You may get great people and a few big bangs BUT the vast bulk of your money is going into 3 sets of pockets!

1 - Gunman (obviously, Josh has to make a living so I don't begrudge the bloke).
2 - Manning (jumping on the WW2 bandwagon to make some money, just like he does when he sucks up to Stirling for "modern" games).
3 - National Paintball Games (who own the site in the first place).

Oh God, National Paintball Games, I feel for you there Josh.....I seem to remember them taking a massive cut of Fireball's gate just for providing 35 acres of pretty sketchy land. They took something like £10 out of the £15 or £20 walk-on fee.

I've just re-read this thread and I'm not understanding the IOW guy's maths on this. If you used to pay up to £100 just for a walk-on (with all the travel costs) then surely the costs for attending a more expensive game are proportionately higher? Granted the experience might be much more worth it, and it's a weekend's game though.

Still, as I've said elsewhere. You pays your money, you takes your choice!

The fireball site is owned by National Paintball FIELDS, not National Paintball Games. NPG also operate Phoenix Paintball, Zap paintballs AND Skirmish Paintball Games, so they're pretty big! (I've known them since 1986!).