I'm sorry to see the event postponed, I know from experience how gutting that can be. I think Che has it right that it's too hardcore for many. I recently held a 24hr game at EAG and of the 30 or so who swore blind they would come, 19 turned up, two left after an hour because they were called in to work, two went home at 19.00 hrs saying they wernt cut out for this, and the game nearly collapsed. Thankfully the rest of the players that went through, really enjoyed it.
A while back Pimms suggested a 24 hr game, WW2 style at our site and was shot down in flames by many stating they had had enough of stag duty and foxholes when they did it for real and didnt want to do it again. Also many pointed out after a long drive there, a 24 hr game and a long drive back, had the potential to be dangerous. I didnt appreciate this untill I went to Gultch (six hour drive!)
I personally think that 24 hr games are a breed apart from regular day games or weekenders, it takes a different mindset. The problem is that airsoft is not complusary, in the army, you Have to do as you are ordered, airsofters being civvies can say "F### this I'm off" or just not book.
what gets me is that 24hrs is not realy hard core hardcore its more a little bit of hardship followed buy a hot bath n cakes .maybe the fear is greater than the reality i dont know.i do know there would be two girls that would come and stick out the whole game and do well at it .and one of them is my good lady who is by no means some horrible hard cow that bites heads off ferrets and im pretty dam sure the other is not either.i know that sounds sexist but tuff shit thats the truth of the matter. rant over (jezz im getting old and mean)
theres nowt so Permanent as temporary
Heh, the funny thing is that the only 'hardcore' bit was the allies who were to live by their wits - and they booked up almost instantly. The Germans who were to have a luxury life by comparison (nice camp, fire, tents and vehicles to save their legs) didn't flock to book! No foxholes in this game BTW. And no need to be 'on the go' for 24hrs - part of being an organised army is making sure troops are fed, rested and watered. Players wouldn't be driving home after 24hrs constant battling, everyone needs to sleep.
And Che is right, a slight degree of discomfort compared to what they had to put up with 65 years ago, but for us softies might just give a bit of a clue to what it might have been like. And that's what CiA events try to do - attempt to recreate a bit of reality where you can forget about how pukka your kit is, the mounting charges on your credit card and those windows at home that really need a lick of paint - and let your mind slip back to the dreadful brutal times when just living to the next day was a bonus.
Anyhoo, its clear there were multiple reasons why we couldn't get the numbers so we aren't bitter, just a bit disappointed because we were looking forward to it. No matter, we will have another crack next year when the weather is warmer so the evaders don't die of hypothermia - we ain't that realistic!
Shame about this one I was looking forward to being on the german side for a change, and the eastern front game is a bit of a blow.
On the bright side, the CiA chaps can take a well deserved break and hopefully come back fighting next year.
Can I make one suggestion please? Let's stop the "walt" bashing. People who play for different reasons and get their enjoyment from different things are not inferior to elite-airsoft-pros, just different.
The suggestion that anyone who didn't book up (and didn't have a doctor's note) was exposing shortcomings as a person, is taking things a bit far in my opinion.
I don't think it's started a "Them and Us" attitude but I do agree with B&A that laying blame on those who didn't sign up for whatever reason doesn't do anything positive for the hobby. And let's not forget that this IS A hobby, not a job or a moral obligation.
Nobody should be beating themselves (or others) up about this. There are too many variables which determine event attendance. It's not an exact science. To use a New World expression: Shit happens. Get over it.
This event was billed as not for lighweights (not a derogatory term, as Barrie says people play for all sorts of reasons) - this was a beefy and somewhat demanding scenario. So its not really surprising players weren't flocking by the thousand to book.
And perhaps just some bad luck in timing. Twice!
So, really no need for chaps to get aeriated about this - the CiA team are quite philosophical. I'm disappointed but tend to look on the bright side - instead of wasting valuable time on organising a WW2 event I can now finish off the 101 jobs around the house, least of all decorate the main bedroom which has remained untouched and replete with magnolia painted-walls since we moved into the house 13 years ago.
Hmm, now I remember why I waste valuable time on organising WW2 events.
Cash flow, or lack of, seems to sum up my position at the moment, I was tempted by this event purely because its something a bit more demanding.
Over the last three years I`ve had two jobs, both have been close to minimum wage, savings have been next to nothing and it seems to be getting worse down this end. I`ve got to admit that I`m probably the poorest I`ve ever been in real terms since I started work almost exactly thirty years ago. Great Britain my arse.
food for thought steve .i stopped doing mordern/open days the day i did my first cia game .but of course the game your talking about is very different .and as you say if guy is involved it has good pedagree in an insane kind of way
theres nowt so Permanent as temporary
Well, there's going to be a couple of other CiA'ers at the event Steve mentions - did the last one, and I can honestly say that it is the only modern gig that that gets me worked up for a bit of modern 'softing.
Going back on topic for a second, sometimes things work out sometimes they don't. As David has said so well, the CiA crew are pretty philosophical about it - it ain't the end of the world!
When we were a Kingdom it was run by a King
When we were an Empire it was run by an Empress
Now we're a country we're run by a..........
I have a different mindset then sorry I find that the most offensive comment on this thread, pat yourself on the back there
huh?
I've had half a bottle of scotch tonight, things ain't making much sense to me
When we were a Kingdom it was run by a King
When we were an Empire it was run by an Empress
Now we're a country we're run by a..........
I'm really gutted too, I was really up for some gritty sitting in a ditch fighting, a bit like at Churchills, only now with less regard for looking good (I can admit to being WALT once upon a time)
huh?
I've had half a bottle of scotch tonight, things ain't making much sense to me
Not you some other irrelevant post, I wasn't actually on this planet and my mind was left some way up the M1 or was it the M18 eitherway I wasn't all there. Ok so I'm not anyways but thats neither here not there.
It was the comment by "persons un-named" and used the term "girls" I didn't quote them (in my mind last night I had ) I'm not a girl I'm helmut von helmut~winkle
ok maybes not but the "girl" term is used as a baiting tactic amongst men in all walks of life, and I think the "women" on this forum do far better than the average nag, sorry girl
Much appologies for enhancing the effect of your scotch I didn't realise I could type and make it appear in beer goggle vision
Altho I wasnt down for this i am disappointed for those who wanted to go that its not now happening....and doubly disappointed to find out a Russian front game has been cancelled as well..
As someone who is new to this coming from the re-enactment angle, I have to say i have really enjoyed the events ive been on (Bryansk, St Lo and Ariel) and have truth be told been enjoying them more than my re-enactments of late..
Roll on CIA next year...
Sorry I couldn't make either weekend for this event due to prior commitments. All I would say is please don't abandon the idea, it sounds like a cracker. I was very much up for patrolling all night as a Jerry if needs be, great fun.
If you re-run it and I'm not busy earning money that weekend, I will be there... guaranteed!
Hi all
I'm organising a little replacement event for Op Jedburgh to include some training and then a skirmish to hone skills.
This will be on Sunday 27th at First and Only in Matlock. Camping and social the night before too, if required.
More info here: viewtopic.php?f=98&t=8714
Will have to see when this comes back would not mind having a go legging it from the bosh! tactically of course.
If its passed 9 there is a 95% chance im pissed.