Now dont panic this is just to test the water but how woudl folk feel about membership of the group with annual subs which in turn would make us a proper reenacting society in the eyes of the law with regards to public liability insurance and buying and importing RIFs?
I jsut want to hear you views it not a PBI policy its a personal question on my own.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
I'd be quite happy to go down this route, for me it's a much better option than being forced to attend the obligitory '3 games in not less than 2 months' requirement for being added to the UKARA database, that being said is there any indication that UKARA are prepared to accept reenactors onto their database? Also it should hopefully be an easier to prove defence for dealing with C&E when trying to import RIFs.
I wouldnt mind one bit. Me and Craig already have alternate arrangements with our local shop/site and are awaiting the registration cards now. but the more defence the better
Sounds good to me!
If it helps smooth the way for future purchases and aquisitions etc, why not? 
I dont even know how doable it is i'll have to tlak to the other lads see what they think.
You see the thing is for me....
1 ) I odnt like playing a the same site all the time
2 ) I'm unlikley to do three games in 2 months across the uk let alone in the same place
3 ) I'd liek to be PLI covered if i decide to go to an event on my own or wiht one or two mates
4 ) I'm not interested in being in any of the established reenacting groups
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
Well that helps, i still would like PLI personally to attend wwii events and be insured.
Plus i think if we were to make PBI a true 'society' as such then it would give you an even stronger 'specific defence' as you play both the airsfot sports card and the wwii history card and as we have a requirement for fairly authentic uniforms we may well be able to get ourselves classed as re-enactors.
I odnt know this is all rambling and thinking aloud to be honest, i've been up for abuot 40 hours as i have terrible insomnia latley!
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
Gadge, it sounds like a good plan - keep me informed.
You've got nothing to ein, zwei, drei, vier
Well as i say thinking aloud on an individuallevle right now.
I have no idea what Major, Evo and Yith think about this or if thats the way they'd like pBI to go.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
You see the thing is for me....
1 ) I odnt like playing a the same site all the time
2 ) I'm unlikley to do three games in 2 months across the uk let alone in the same place
3 ) I'd like to be PLI covered if I decide to go to an event on my own or with one or two mates
4 ) I'm not interested in being in any of the established reenacting groups
+1 on all of those !
Sounds a good idea in principle; assuming the subs arn't silly money, count me in
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okay... first off this PLI can only be offered to those that actually participate in re-enactment events... i.e. come with the group to an event. Otherwise this could be viewed as a work around on the VCR bill and that would not be good!
The plan is not to set up a display or anything like that but to go as a "wandering group"
The cost will be a lot lower than £35. For instance my Chindit group charges £20 a year and that covers the PLI for several events plus some other expenses. (BTW we are always happy to consider new recruits... 
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If we did do this then we would be under direct scrutiny of other re-enactment groups and hence we would want to be looking as good as we can! There would be no "you can't tell me not to wear that, its stitch nazi'ing" At a re-enactment event things will be done right... This is not to say that suddenly everyone would have to go out and buy £250 worth of BD, just like mine.... but you'd have to get the right boots etc...
For these reasons, I don't think this will be for every PBI member... It would have to be optional.
Well as I say thinking aloud on an individuallevle right now.
I have no idea what Major, Evo and Yith think about this or if thats the way they'd like pBI to go.
Personally, i'm for it as well, as long as it's affordable, and what the majority want.
I'm quite happy for PBI to go along the 'recognised group' path, as it would give us cover for both the airsoft and re-enactment hobbies, as i know at least gadge and yith go to reenactment events in uniform, and it would cover them for that too.
don't think i'll be doing that in the near future though, as i'm pretty certain having hair halfway down to my waist wasn't regulation, even if tied back, and can't be doing with the high pitched whining of the stitch counters complaining!
All sounds liek a good idea.
We could have 'PBI' which we're all in and 'PBI - livinghistory' as an optional group which might give you PLI?
Is that feasable?
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
Yeah it could work... I have some ideas...
Yup, evo... soz to say that haircuts will be one of those things... 
Some re-enactors do manage with long hair... they just have a short back and sides and the long hair in their hat/beret. As long as they don't take it off then you're none the wiser!
Yup, evo... soz to say that haircuts will be one of those things...
Yeah, i've gathered that, but my chances of finding another girlfriend are vastly more important than 'fitting into' the reenacting scene, so i'm afraid the long hair wins out every time! 
Lol evo. I would like to do some shows but simply dont have the cash to do the kit required for that level of things. maybe in the future though
grate idear lads, hope it all works out,
i,d like to but its a fare track down
team shoot and scoot, TL
I think the hair issue and other even more obvious differences will preclude us from re-enactment proper.
I don't have a problem with a membership fee though even if I'm not personally taking advantage of the PLI cover.
I think that the option to take the PBI to re-enactment level is a good idea.As long as it is an option, it will allow the group to bring together a good diversity of people,with a shared interest,without excluding some simply because they have made particular lifestyle choices,eg,hair length etc.The PLI idea is a good one as well,whatever form it takes,and for the various reasons stated.If a membership fee can be of good technical use (ie insurance purposes etc)I support that aswell.If the group continues to grow,would it be of use to have an annual get together,and include an AGM? Just an idle thought,but I thought that I would mention it so that it can be chewed over by everyone else.
Given favourable conditions the group could develope to be one of the more genuinely diverse and interesting groups occupying its own special position in the space between airsoft and re-enactment.I think that the whole idea is something rather special.
As i stated elswere i think this is the way to go re- the VCR act, And i seen to remember saying somthing about it last year, so yes, put me down. The only thing is, as a group we would need
1) a seperate bank account and financial arangments(I assume yith and gadge have allready done this for the game next year)
2) a Board(Chairman, Membership, Treasurer etc), much like any other association
3) proven events and ability as well as authenticity.
4)Not sure if its compulsery but NAreS recognition/ representation(not sure how that works)
5)PLI, and a pretty big cover as well, otherwise, no events would touch us(I think EH want £2Mil Cover)
6) Lastly, for the rekord, I wouldnt feel right doing"Public" shows in my current shape
If we can sort those out, then their is literally nothing we wouldnt be able to do, either airsoft, re-enacting or anything else. Whatever else takes owr fancy.
Sorry syd but your current shape should not discourage you at all, besides the fact there is nothing wrong with you, am sorry I would perish the day that any hobby be dictated by anything, inparticular airsofting.
Obviously I'm completely the wrong 'shape' being female (not to mention the wrong sex, have the wrong hairstyle, blah de blah de blah blah blah can't be arsed to list the chinese whispers), and if its ok for me then its ok for anyone else, you always prove your worth in gaming and it should be shown to others you don't have to be a lanky streak of pith to enjoy wwii airsofting. I'm sorry if this goes against anyones grain, but I can think of 101 other reasons besides how much someone weighs or does not weigh. You go out there, you get your kit right (even the rubber ) and you enjoy it, to me that should be the most important thing, if not THE most important thing, Long hair can easily be tucked away (meant as no offense to evo merely using hair as an example), weight is a different issue, and something that is close (very close) to my heart having been considerably bigger than I am now (infact think of 2 dinks squished in one body and maybes a bit more at one point 
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It took me nigh on 4 years to loose the weight and it has been no mean feat, infact at one point it was a complete standstill. Whether you want to or indeed need to in this "size" orientated modern society that rates people as sticks or not sticks is your choice, but don't ever make comments like
I wouldnt feel right doing"Public shows in my current shap
