I have to agree with Pete, Unless you already have an APS2 then go with the VSR10 (BAR-10). I have converted both now and they both have their own pros and cons. Its much easier and cheaper to get the VSR to perform well and it is a smoother operating weapon compared to the APS2.
The biggest problem visualy with the APS is that the mag will stick out the bottom of the stock by about 3mm whereas the VSR should sit pretty much flush with the bottom of the stock. On the plus side, the APS2's mag retention is integeral so you dont have such a headache with a reliable mag retention system. The other thing I do like about the APS is it is much heavier than the VSR so it gives the finished gun a much more "real-steel" feel to it.
“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942
"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942
have decided to get the bar-10 and have just ordered one, will give me a nice winter project 
my enfield is 95% finished but i just can not get the thing to shoot cosistantly. are the mp001's inconsistant out of the box and is there a replacement hop rubber that will fit.
cheers
jay
As far as I'm aware, there are no hop upgrades commercially available for the MP001. SInce the cylinder is the same diameter as that of the APS2, I'd assume it's at least feasible to fit an APS hop system, although I haven't found any evidence for anyone having done it. The MP001 isn't the most consistent rifle available unfortunately but if you make sure you wash the hop rubber thoroughly and let it air dry before refitting it and doing the teflon tape wrap around its' join with the barrel, it makes it better. Another thing I've seen done is to cut the hop arm into a "v" shape, like on the VSR/BAR10.
You can also fit VSR trigger parts to it and fit an APS2 piston and piston head. I did this to mine and it worked better for it. I have a spare Laylax APS piston if you're interested in it.
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right im going to be a complete plum here but which way would the 'v' be put on.
also have had a look at an aps2 piston and the rear part looked completely different to the mp001 piston ,is there a specific piston that you used.
right im going to be a complete plum here but which way would the 'v' be put on.
also have had a look at an aps2 piston and the rear part looked completely different to the mp001 piston ,is there a specific piston that you used.
It's an inverted "v". If you have a look at the hop arm on the BAR10 when you get it, you'll see what I mean. I too thought it was weird that an APS piston would work with VSR trigger parts but it does. I used the PSS2 3 element piston. To be honest, it's not worth spending the money on upgrading an MP001(you're talking £50 or so just for a piston and piston head). You'd be far better off just replacing it with a BAR10 and spending some dosh on that instead. I had to bite the bullet myself and admit that the MP001, whilst cheap, comes nowhere near the BAR10 for quality and upgradeability. Hence why I now have a load of MP001 parts!
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so is the tm/bar-10 the same as the mp001 externally, as the mp001 is a nice snugg fit in the enfield stock. would my mag slot line up the same?
Well, when I replaced my K98 internals with those of a BAR, the mag cutout was identical. I had to do a bit of grinding on the aluminium block of the magwell but that was it. Not sure how it will work with an enfield but if you're getting a BAR anyway, it's worth having a look before diving in and ordering another.
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hehe thats the problem pete, i cant help diving in. just got a good deal on a tm vsr pro aswell, well i suppose its nearly x-mas,right.
I know it's not a German weapon but what the hell, I may as well post a picture of it while the milliput is setting! Just need to find (or scratch build) a front sight protector now.
MP001 based Enfield No.4 conversion that I've been tatting about with for a while now. Christ knows what I'll do with it!
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Looks good. I'm sure if you don't want to use it there will be a few brits who would like to take it off your hands.
looks great pete, i have a spare sight housing if you want it, you will have to get the bolt for it though. will post some pics of mine up later.
jay
The No4 looks great Pete how did you go about securing the buttstock to the forestock? I presume you have some kind of metal collar under that miliput?
You have reminded me that I need to get my butt into gear and get the Aps98k finished. just need to get some aluminium primer and get the reciever painted!
“I wanted to come to the Volga at a specific location at a specific city. By chance it carries the name of Stalin himself. So don’t think I marched there for this reason – it could carry another name – but because there is a very important goal... this goal I wanted to take – and you know – we are very modest, we have it already."
Adolf Hitler, November 1942
"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
Joseph Stalin, November 1942
The butt is secured to the stock by an over elaborate and complicated method! I don't have the tools to fabricate a metal band, so I made a notch in the butt stock and routed out the fore stock, so it went together a bit like a normal wood joint, with a couple of hidden screws and some wood glue in there for strength. The band itself is just milliput but it does add a bit to the strength.
Nice K98 (again!) Boshman.
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Very nice K98k Mr B
pahhh ...............
im not jelous at all.......
my good old dboys did sterling work at husky, im even tempted to use it at the december game 
just seeing a kar 98 will have the allies running for cover
"Take that you rotton helping of strawberry flan!"
Joseph Porta to "strawberrys and cream", in the sven hassel book ,ogpu prison
Did a bit more to the No.4 today. Painted the metalwork and milliput and also sanded and restained the woodwork. Once the foresight protector and the reinforced trigger sears arrive, they're going straight on and I'll most likely be selling it. I'll never use it, as I don't do allied loadouts. It's turned out pretty well, it shoots nice and straight, which is unusual for an MP001! Quite a satisfying conversion to do as well, given the challenge of joining the butt to the rest of the gun.
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Very nice indeed!
I'm sure we can find a tommy who will be very happy to shoot it at you if you like... 
So, just the foresight to sort then?
Well... actually I've noticed something else... 
The magazine protrudes too much. See pics on here for how it should look. http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl04-e.htm
The reason why I noticed this is because Warren's also all do this. What it means is that you can't fit a breach cover to the gun... a minor problem I know, but I thought I'd mention it!
Anyway, well done! If I'd not already got a No4 I'd be badgering you to sell it to me!
Thanks Yith. Yes, just the foresight cover to fit and also the reinforced trigger parts that I've ordered ( the standard monkey metal trigger sears are too unreliable and I won't sell a gun which could break at any moment).
I was already aware about the magazine protruding too much but I didn't want to cut down a perfectly good real steel mag, given how expensive they can be these days, if it's an issue to a potential buyer, I'll cut it down. Actually, I'd rather sell it to a PBI member, who would get more from it than most other players.
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Heh... Warren cuts his down.. just not enough.
There are quite a few No4 mags about I wouldn't worry overly.
thats lovely, well done.
