FPS Limits?

FPS rules vary according to site and organiser but since you specifically mention the 14th December game - single action guns can fire up to an absolute max of 500fps, minimum engagement applies so a pistol would be handy. We will have a chrono or two on site.

I'm not an organiser so I stand to be corrected, but I think that in CiA games it's more about guidelines than actual rules. Better to have a responsible sniper with a 500 fps rifle at over minimum engagement than some twat blind firing a 290 fps AEG.

Cool, many thanks for the clarification, I normaly use a Black ops L96 for snipeing and may have to bring that if all else fails, my useral engagement distance is 20m + and wont even aim if the target is closer than that, most of the sites I go to don't allow you to fire any closer that 10 meters but that seems just too close for me.

many thanks again

It would be a shame if you had to use the L96 as that's about the least WW2 looking sniper rifle you can get!

I should have the Kar98 by then, but not alot is going right for me at the moment, If it can go wrong then it will!, I've got the basics together but just missing the gun now

It would be a shame if you had to use the L96 as that's about the least WW2 looking sniper rifle you can get!

Yes, but if he doesn't have anything else that it's not a problem.

Of course!

But it'd be better to get a loan if poss!

Like I said, I should have it in time, It will get to my retailer thursday next week and I can pick it up on friday, so now worries, just not haveing much luck at the moment

plenty of hessian on it mate.that should do the trick.

That wont be a problem, got loads of sand bags at work, I can just say it's for CT to attach to my webbing, I'm cutting one up now to attach to my helmet but it don't look right, mainly wrong helmet net but not a real problem

328fps with .2g bb (1J) with a tolerance of 10% (350fps maximum)

Im looking at upgrading my Garand to 400fps. Im removing the fire selector so it'll be single shot only. Will that be okay?

Im looking at upgrading my Garand to 400fps. Im removing the fire selector so it'll be single shot only. Will that be okay?

No... generally not.

You're on shaky ground legally... Something about it becoming a section 5 firearm over around 375fps if it can do semi/full auto. Someone may have better details on that than me.

Also it'll be a lot quicker to fire than a bolt action... hence more dangerous. A lot of sites will tell you to leave it in the car.

I recommend you leave it at 350... an M14 (which I assume its based on) has a lovely range even when stock.

Yith's nearly there! The legal issue of +1.35J seems to apply to any airsoft gun but really it's a side issue.
Whether or not you wish to become a legal test case, as Yith says, semi-auto at 400fps is somewhat unfair and has the potential to be dangerous too.

Bolt action rifle users are at a distinct disadvantage over AEG users, however we allow this disadvantage to be tempered by a dispensation of higher power, that is to say, further reach.
It follows then, that to use a semi-auto gun at high fps gains advantage over both groups and so is unfair.

A 350fps (absolute max) M14 can be used within the game on single shot as a rifleman or on full auto when used prone as a support gunner.

Whether or not you wish to become a legal test case, as Yith says, semi-auto at 400fps is somewhat unfair and has the potential to be dangerous too.

Important point that, because you really REALLY don't want to be a legal test case.

Keep it at 350fps. The other issue once you take it over that all important 1.35j mark is that you'll effectively become a single-shot weapon which limit the gun's usage. No more urban use and only good for targets over 20m engagement distance

Keep it at 350j and you've the best of both worlds.

Hi,

Can I just clarify the engagement distance - I thought it was 30m not 20m as stated? Even at 30m a 400 to 500fps shot does quite a bit of damage (e.g. broken teeth) compared to a face full of 328 aeg at 30m (which doesn't break the skin)!

Not sure I want a face shot at 20m

Broken teeth can happen with a standard AEG at less than 15m... I know from experience ... More of a test is how much of a bleeder you'd get.

Broken teeth can happen with a standard AEG at less than 15m... I know from experience ... More of a test is how much of a bleeder you'd get.

All true at 15m, I was quoting at 30m. The damage and energy carried by the bb differs by its initial speed, distance, atmospheric conditions and weight (lots on the web on this). What has been identified as doing the most damage is the impact velocity; this is regardless of the bb weight but related. It runs a little counter intuitive but basically over a short distance (i.e.15m) the .2g bb will travel faster than a .36g bb but as air resistance affects them equally, the heavier bb sheds less speed and ends up keeping its velocity for much longer.

This means that a low powered aeg can shoot you up close but by the time the bb has travelled 5m it is substantially slower than it's exit speed and thus the energy it hits you with is lower (speed x mass - at impact). There is also an energy level where the impact of the bb starts to cause actual damage. This explains why heavier bbs hurt more at the same speed and why you can slot someone close with a normal (i.e. under 328fps) aeg and not do too much damage but another 30 or so fps causes much swearing.

Higher fps on heavier bbs means they have greater retained energy for longer and so do much more damage as damage vs fps is not linear.

I'm boring myself now but I don't want to get shot too close by anything flying over 330fps ish!

My point is that teeth breaking is not a good guide... almost any aeg at most engagement distances is capable of breaking teeth, they are surprisingly fragile when hit in the wriong way... whether it is likely is another thing altogether.