And the good news keeps on rolling in I guess, full article and video here: http://www.airsoft2day.com/news/1020-ir ... ealed.html
Gas though. What the flip is wrong with these developers?
When you cock a real rifle you compress a spring, why not do the same for airsoft.
aka Stigroadie
AFRA
better by design
"Truth is a shining goddess, always veiled, always distant, never wholly approachable, but worthy of all the devotion of which the human spirit is capable. "
Gas powered... ridiculous asking price.
This isn't a serious attempt to give us a practical SMLE.
I guess at least it's not a gas bolt... so it probably will work, just with all the fps problems of existing gas rifles.
It does look nice though.
Oh and at least it's not a shell ejector.
I met a chap from the airsoft industry whilst out on Friday night. I showed him the pictures of my custom SMLE. His response was "you'll be able to buy one of those soon"... Quite a coincidence that this suddenly appeared, however, I don't think he really knew what he was on about as he then started to talk about shell ejecting, and "ping"... (So an M1 garand, not an SMLE) and how those features would be something we would want... How wrong he was there, what we want is something reliable, with consistent fps and which doesn't involve you searching for ruddy spent shells.
Well anyway, that was OT, but I thought I'd mention it.
I hope you put him right?
All this wasted effort and energy that goes into developing crappy gimmicks.
Blow back on smg and auto rifles be it gas or electric? Whats the point, only you can see your little cocking piece whizzing back and forth. A waste of gas or precious battery power.
I much prefer electric pistols, no flash, just reliable BB delivery that is not climate dependant.
aka Stigroadie
AFRA
better by design
"Truth is a shining goddess, always veiled, always distant, never wholly approachable, but worthy of all the devotion of which the human spirit is capable. "
Yes, I think I managed to.
And he admitted also to not liking gas and preferring electric pistols.
Spare magazines and bayonet only on demand?
Do they mean you must order them as extras or they will only be produced if there is a demand?
They should forget the bayonet, of very limited utility in airsoft games.
aka Stigroadie
AFRA
better by design
"Truth is a shining goddess, always veiled, always distant, never wholly approachable, but worthy of all the devotion of which the human spirit is capable. "
Lol, so spend a ton of money and you get a potentially unusable gun with one magazine.
What is up with these people?
Like many expensive rifles they seem to be aimed at collectors rather than players.
That rotten gas Zeta Labs Mosin should never have seen the light of day were it not for collectors. Even with the spring bolt the nasty bb loading makes it very hard to use.
aka Stigroadie
AFRA
better by design
"Truth is a shining goddess, always veiled, always distant, never wholly approachable, but worthy of all the devotion of which the human spirit is capable. "
On the Zeta, yes the gas is pants, spring system however is brilliant (well apart from the bolt end getting stuck when you pull it right back and return it, rather like engaging the safety on a real one).
The mag was supposed to be improved with an aftermarket add on, which never came. It would have made it like the KTW, better, but still not ideal.
Only thing to add is the zeta price wasn't sky-high like this one.
Gas (especially gas bolts), ejecting rounds, internal magazines... All should be banned.
Oh and collectors should be banned as well. 
Out of curiosity, why do you think this so bad? A lot of people seem quite happy with their gas powered tanaka Kar 98k's.
They are just being cautious with rolling out additional production of magazines and accessories waiting and see the demand. They do not seem to be a large manufacture and it's a sensible move to make, we do the same with all our new product lines at work. Going through their tiny catalogue, they produce accessories for Gas guns and a grenade launcher, so as a company it would make sense that their expertise base is in gas weapons.
Out of curiosity, why do you think this so bad?
Ever used a gas rifle in winter?
Rather tedious being out ranged by £20 springer pistols.
Gas does not work well in low temps, which is November to March around these shores.
You have to find space in your kit for a can of gas.
Happy and relieved there is a k98 rifle to buy are not the same. The Tanaka works but the mags are tricky to carry in authentic kit and they are not very consistent. There is now the G&G on the market but springer conversions are still being made because they work all the time.
Gas mags are tricky but gas bolts are a total waste of time if the Mosin is anything to go by. 3 or 4 wildly different strength shots from 1 fill isnt a skirmishable option for me.
aka Stigroadie
AFRA
better by design
"Truth is a shining goddess, always veiled, always distant, never wholly approachable, but worthy of all the devotion of which the human spirit is capable. "
"A lot of people" also buy a Tanaka k98, go "wooahhh how hot" (700fps has been quoted to me) and sell it on as soon as they can.
Most high fps incidents that I've heard of appear to have been related to the Tanaka K98.
Reduce the fps by using weaker gas, and you often have a gun that is so weak as to be unusable.
Now, that's not to say that some people do find that Tanakas can work well for them, and they certainly do. But those people tend to be the ones that can find their way around a gas rifle really well.
Springer bolt actions solve all of these problems. Consistency independent of the weather, tunability (by changing springs). etc...
While usually, i'd say that the only way to get an airsoft replica boltie to be spot on with the real thing is to make it gas powered, in this case, the larger cylinder of the springer can easily be hidden under the top handguard of the smle. And a rachet type bb loading system can be accomodated in the magazine.
Yup, i.e. just like the KTW No4 (or springfield) or KTW/Zeta Mosins, etc...
However for our purposes, as can be seen with all the custom springers, we don't mind about having a removable magazine ahead of the real one as well.
Why can't they see that? I mean the modern guys don't complain about the same thing in the VSR-10?
(Hmmm, that's got me thinking... could I convert my zeta mosin to have a removable magazine ahead of the main one...)
Fair enough, the lack of a commercial spring Enfield is disappointing. I think its rather admirable that a a random accessory manufacturer decided to take the plunge with a niche gun, could have just been another WA M4 clone. There is always the hope for a Co2 magazine.
Yup, i.e. just like the KTW No4 (or springfield) or KTW/Zeta Mosins, etc...
However for our purposes, as can be seen with all the custom springers, we don't mind about having a removable magazine ahead of the real one as well.
Why can't they see that? I mean the modern guys don't complain about the same thing in the VSR-10?
Because then they'd get a lot of complaints from those who do mind. Lol. Just look at the number of votes ics got for the stupid "ping" and top loading features for the garand on their fb page. Having built several vsr10 based conversions, i wouldnt mind as well, but that's coming from the mind set of making do with what's available. While im sure it would be easy for these companies to somehow blend the magazine in with the stock, designing a new reliable springer system wold be harder than just moving around the old gas system i think. Case in point would be the kar98 conversions. Because of the cylinder design of the vsr10, you will never ever get the rear sight low enough to line up spot on with the front sight. Another point to consider would be the fact that our springer conversions are reliable because the base vsr10 has been proven reliable. Not all springer systems can claim the same.
Simple almost none of us want gas guns of any shape.
If it is a bolt action rifle we want it to be a springer and no cartridges on the floor, so realistic or hidden BB mag.
If it is a repeater we want electric pref NO BLOWBACK or a switch/ leaver to dis-engage them.
I do have some gas pistols but they are mostly an ornament in this activity.
Free speech is expensive these days!
Just look at the number of votes ics got for the stupid "ping" and top loading features for the garand on their fb page.
God yes... hence why I added "ban collectors" to my list of bans...
Stone them all!
I think its rather admirable that a a random accessory manufacturer decided to take the plunge with a niche gun,
Seems to happen a lot though... Most WWII airsoft guns are from the minor manufacturers it seems.
What we actually need is one of the big guys to make them... I guess the best example of that is the new Garands.. come on ICS and G&G!!!
