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Peppered
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Hi, do we have any guidelines on using a shotgun (trench or riot looky likey) in games? I was thinking just partisan and US troops?

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Posted : 10/07/2008 2:05 pm
 Yith
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Well we won't disallow them from games.

But since they were apparently against the Geneva Convention (I think), they saw very limited use in WWII.

 
Posted : 10/07/2008 2:17 pm
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Though they are/were against the GC, they were still taken for "foliage clearance" and used in combat, but not in any great number. We have had a trench gun or two show up at big games, and they've not been poo-poo'd. I used one that had been left at the final mortar pit at D-Day+2 to defend it, when the Axis got too close for competent use of my Vickers over the sandbags, was a great joy blasting a couple of three BB shots towards the skirting Germans as they surrounded the encamped pit.

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Posted : 10/07/2008 2:29 pm
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Here's mine

 
Posted : 10/07/2008 3:04 pm
Harborne Blue
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Where'd you get a mossberg from that takes 30rd shells?

And shouldn't that helmet have a P42 camo cover on it, my USMC friend?

 
Posted : 10/07/2008 3:49 pm
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I couldnt be arsed to put it on.. The shells are only for decoration.

 
Posted : 10/07/2008 4:02 pm
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It's a bit obtuse I know but there are photos of Czech Uprising against germans in 1945 showing citizens manning barricades with shotguns.

 
Posted : 10/07/2008 5:09 pm
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at least one member of the walmington on sea home guard had one,,,, put cpt mainwairings nose right out of joint lol.

 
Posted : 10/07/2008 5:11 pm
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It's a bit obtuse I know but there are photos of Czech Uprising against germans in 1945 showing citizens manning barricades with shotguns.

Yeah, i think a resistance role is possibly the only one where you could get away with carrying a shottie as a main weapon.

Coincidentally i was talking to a mate about my need/desire to build a full length double barrelled shotgun for precisely this role! Just need to work out how to knock one up now! :D

 
Posted : 10/07/2008 5:54 pm
McVickers
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at least one member of the walmington on sea home guard had one,,,, put cpt mainwairings nose right out of joint lol.

Dad's Army the film, perchance?

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Posted : 10/07/2008 5:55 pm
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I've been thinking of a side by side shottie project using Kampf pistol 27mm moscart rounds, It would be great to pop up in tweed jacket and flat cap screaming "Get off my Land!"
Could use a spare old airrifle stock an two lenghts of pipe, it's just the breech I've got to work on, although I do know a cnc engineer, may have to go have a beer with him soon.




 
Posted : 10/07/2008 9:45 pm
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cant be arsed to write it out again(been covered 4 odd times before here heh) but they did get used in europse though unofficially. they were given to mp's guarding certain things and were then liberated by troops and used. found several accounts of them being used in the battle of the bulge.



 
Posted : 10/07/2008 10:46 pm
Peppered
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Yeah, I read that on the web somewhere that airbase guards, MPs and second line troops had them in large numbers (yanks only though). I also thought that side by side shotguns would be the one for partisans but apparently, there were large numbers of pump action shotguns floating around Europe, many from the 1st world war.

Partisans made their own 'stove pipe' guns as well so an opportunitiy for you DIYers.

I think the 'not using a shotgun' was mainly a British and German thing in the ww2. The 'against the geneva convention' seems to be a bit of a red herring as the Germans challenged the trench gun's use in WW1 on that grounds (mainly cos they were losing) and it was deemed no more barbaric than any other weapon in use and so allowed.

I will try and do a bit more digging to post the sources but it seems OK for Yanks and partisans to wield a couple of them, but only if it makes historic sense (i.e. 2nd line Yanks only, etc).

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Posted : 15/07/2008 2:36 pm
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