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meddy
(@meddy)
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Handy this thread is :) now i know what one to avoid. Now just need to find one :D

meddy

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Posted : 24/11/2012 7:24 pm




Simon
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Try here
http://www.airsoftarmoury.co.uk/product ... ts_id=2313

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Posted : 24/11/2012 11:22 pm




meddy
(@meddy)
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Hmmm i dont trust that site. after their special discount promotion on facebook 40% off, and then mysteriously the site dissapered and they abandoned there facebook group. Few people on there said they heard nothing and lost money. so sorry unless youve recently receved something from there i just cant risk it

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Posted : 25/11/2012 12:25 am




ww2stu
(@ww2stu)
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I have been to the actual shop lots of times. I know it has changed hands any is now known as "Viking Airsoft". Had a couple of bad experiences there so I take my custom else where anyways. Unless i am desperate for BB's.

Stu

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Posted : 25/11/2012 1:49 am




(@amoco_cadiz)
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It's very perplexing really - I've read good and bad about both guns (Agm/Src MP40's) around the web this last month, but as I am only really interested in WW2 airsoft weaponry I decided to join this Forum. The mag feeding issue I can cope with; as doesn't re-modding Agm mags fix that one?? It's the gearbox that is my primary concern for now and I wondered if there was a 'How to' guide on shimming the SRC's gearbox???

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Posted : 25/11/2012 2:11 am




(@greenmogh)
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I've got an SRC, I did have a problem with the micro switch, it burnt out, causing a rather annoying mid-game full auto stick! Aesthetically, the gun is gorgeous, now that I've weathered it. Added a 110% spring and a TM hop rubber, the thing works a dream. As with previous mentioned, there is no "MP40/af41" markings which can be a pain if you're a purist! On the whole, I find it a really effective piece of kit, albeit the rather high price!

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Posted : 25/11/2012 8:11 pm




(@amoco_cadiz)
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Hi greenmogh - glad to hear it's working ok, the micro switches src use seem to be very cheap and nasty. Mine just seized and refused to 'pop out'. The £1.99 replacement I got from Maplins was of far superior quality and fitted more snug in the trigger housing too! Just a few quick questions: did you shim and grease the gearbox when you first got it? What mags are you using and did you modify them! My plan is to do everything i can to the gun over a 6 to 8 month period to get it as reliable as possible.

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Posted : 25/11/2012 9:42 pm




(@jimmiroquai)
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I've got both the AGM and the SRC. The SRC is built solid like a truck, while the AGM (especially the old original stocks) can crumble to dust if you just look at em wrong. Of the 8 AGM MP40s i've fixed...only 2 or 3 have held up over time. Are these still in production? They stopped importing them over here so all we have is the original shipments from AGM c2007. Gearboxes have been crumbling, stocks breaking, lower receiver snapping (where the gearbox is screwed on). That being said, my AGM is still trucking. I've replaced the externals several times, but the old gearbox (with a pdi190 spring), is still one piece thanks to corner cutting and a sorbo pad. It also out shoots my SRC.

My SRC is in pristine condition. But it kind of shoots like crap OTB. Fast ROF...but mags can't keep up. Blowback sounds awesome despite being EBB, but just try and catch that moving bolt handle on something unforgiving and say good by to your gears and piston. The proprietary hop-up has an airleak somewhere, and the nub has less bite than the AGM's AK based hop. And winding the magazines is a B. All that work winding and you get maybe 20-30 rounds til you have to wind again. But low and behold, if you disable the blow back, it starts to shoot much, much better.

Once my AGM breaks down...i plan to replace the nozzle of the SRC with that from the AGM and replace the barrel and hop with that from the AGM.

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Posted : 25/11/2012 11:39 pm




(@amoco_cadiz)
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I've got both the AGM and the SRC. The SRC is built solid like a truck, while the AGM (especially the old original stocks) can crumble to dust if you just look at em wrong. Of the 8 AGM MP40s i've fixed...only 2 or 3 have held up over time. Are these still in production? They stopped importing them over here so all we have is the original shipments from AGM c2007. Gearboxes have been crumbling, stocks breaking, lower receiver snapping (where the gearbox is screwed on). That being said, my AGM is still trucking. I've replaced the externals several times, but the old gearbox (with a pdi190 spring), is still one piece thanks to corner cutting and a sorbo pad. It also out shoots my SRC.

My SRC is in pristine condition. But it kind of shoots like crap OTB. Fast ROF...but mags can't keep up. Blowback sounds awesome despite being EBB, but just try and catch that moving bolt handle on something unforgiving and say good by to your gears and piston. The proprietary hop-up has an airleak somewhere, and the nub has less bite than the AGM's AK based hop. And winding the magazines is a B. All that work winding and you get maybe 20-30 rounds til you have to wind again. But low and behold, if you disable the blow back, it starts to shoot much, much better.

Once my AGM breaks down...i plan to replace the nozzle of the SRC with that from the AGM and replace the barrel and hop with that from the AGM.

Hi there mate - I've seen your posts around various Airsoft Forums and they are very informative!! I am a complete newbie with Airsoft really. More used to conventional air weapons and PFC guns - pre current legislation anyway - so just wondered if you advise shimming the SRC's gears prior to any real use???

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Posted : 26/11/2012 3:39 am




(@jimmiroquai)
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Hi there mate - I've seen your posts around various Airsoft Forums and they are very informative!! I am a complete newbie with Airsoft really. More used to conventional air weapons and PFC guns - pre current legislation anyway - so just wondered if you advise shimming the SRC's gears prior to any real use???

Hi! Ah, that's where the SRC shines. Shimming was near perfect. Just disable the blowback (reverse the blowback springs) and it will work much better. Also, you can buy an automatic winder if the mags are giving you hell. or convert the AGM lowcaps. A friend of mine was able to use the king arms midcaps on his SRC but i have had no such luck. On mine, i need to widen the feed lips of the hop chamber to open up the stopper on the king arms mags.

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Posted : 26/11/2012 8:54 am




meddy
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Hmmmm jdairsoft doing asg. Mp40 for 150 and 50 round mids for 13 each not inc post might pop down the road and grab one next month for the 9th dec game

http://www.jdairsoft.net/product.aspx?id=17775

meddy

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Posted : 26/11/2012 9:14 am




(@greenmogh)
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Hi greenmogh - glad to hear it's working ok, the micro switches src use seem to be very cheap and nasty. Mine just seized and refused to 'pop out'. The £1.99 replacement I got from Maplins was of far superior quality and fitted more snug in the trigger housing too! Just a few quick questions: did you shim and grease the gearbox when you first got it? What mags are you using and did you modify them! My plan is to do everything i can to the gun over a 6 to 8 month period to get it as reliable as possible.

Hi amoco_cadiz, I'm using the SRC hi-caps straight out of the box, they work just fine but winding them takes ages and, because the wheel is inset in the bottom of the mag, it can be a real job to wind them. I haven't done anything to the gearbox, firing it as is when I bought it.

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Posted : 27/11/2012 3:54 pm




(@amoco_cadiz)
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Greenmogh - seems its a fairly divided experience on the SRC, some having the gears strip teeth after only a few shots out of the box, others like yourself having no real problems. I might go ahead and do the mods you did to yours and leave it at that. Glad you using the EBB function too, it would be a shame to disable it, though i can understand why some do it. Being a purist - functions like that are very attractive! Where did you get your spring and hop rubber from btw?

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Posted : 28/11/2012 12:57 pm




(@greenmogh)
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Greenmogh - seems its a fairly divided experience on the SRC, some having the gears strip teeth after only a few shots out of the box, others like yourself having no real problems. I might go ahead and do the mods you did to yours and leave it at that. Glad you using the EBB function too, it would be a shame to disable it, though i can understand why some do it. Being a purist - functions like that are very attractive! Where did you get your spring and hop rubber from btw?

I had the gun modded by the guys at Combat South, they run a site and have a shop.

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Posted : 28/11/2012 2:26 pm




(@amoco_cadiz)
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Well, was playing around with the EBB function this morning showing a friend and there was all of a sudden some nasty 'graunching' noises and it stopped working. Stripped the gearbox out and over half the teeth on the centre cog have completely stripped. There is bits of metal tooth everywhere.

Contacted a chap from 'Close Action Airsoft', who is going to put steel gears in for me.

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Posted : 29/11/2012 2:44 pm




(@jimmiroquai)
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I blame the gear stripping and piston stripping on the EBB. Just a little misalignment/resistance to the EBB system, which is driven mechanically by the moving piston, can do this. I'd disable it, or at least make sure the ebb springs and rods are straight and lube them often.

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Posted : 30/11/2012 1:47 am




(@amoco_cadiz)
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I blame the gear stripping and piston stripping on the EBB. Just a little misalignment/resistance to the EBB system, which is driven mechanically by the moving piston, can do this. I'd disable it, or at least make sure the ebb springs and rods are straight and lube them often.

Point taken! I'm not too sure as the piston has stripped, it looks ok, no noticeable damage.

EDITED to add: I'm tempted to replace the gears with Prometheus ultra high torque ones.

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Posted : 30/11/2012 3:05 am




(@amoco_cadiz)
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Just for the record - this is shooting flawlessly now, with a new steel gear set (JG) and the EBB mechanism disabled. The mag (hi-cap) feeds very well too, once you get used to the constant winding. Thanks for all the advice!

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Posted : 16/01/2013 1:28 pm




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