Sten to Type-100/40

Rather nice, any thoughts on the curved mag or are you sticking with the straight one for now ?

Rather nice, any thoughts on the curved mag or are you sticking with the straight one for now ?

i did think about that for a sten to sterling conversion, and was considering making some kind of MP5 curved mag with the end off the MP40 on the end so it'd fit in the existing magwell. wouldn't look right out of the gun, but could work.

Yep, cuvred mag is planned, using a method similair to dieselmonkey's. I need some of the king arms mid caps first though so I actually have enough mags to use in a skirmish.
I recomend againts using it for a sterling - it's too fat; for possible conversions I suggest:
Austen (particularly suitable)
Grease gun
PPD-40
Lanchester, MP28, 18 etc (particularly suitable)
MP 34/35 (particularly suitable)
Erma EMP
Model 39M, 49M
ZK383 (particularly suitable)
Beretta Model 1918
Beretta Model 1938A
Suomi
Any of those with vertical magazines - I don't think it's be hard to install a new hop, and magwell already rotates.
-Matt

Right, curved magazine made; heres how I did it:
Step 1 - cut down Mp40 mag and fit to plastic Mp5 midcap; once the angle is correct, lightly superglue into place; carefully add brass feed tube, made from length of old barrel, between feed nozzly on mp40 mad and the one on the mp5 mag:

Step 2: glue on plastic detailing (made from plasticard). Glue heavily with epoxy (preferably) or superglue).

Step 3: Fill in gaps with epoxy, sand heavily until all of the joints are smooth:

Step 4: Paint. Coat with hard-wearing metallic paint first, allow to dry fully. Then paint black, then varnish. (mine hasn't been fully painted black yet)




(real mags for comparison)
Notes: get the angle between the mp5 mag and the mp40 mag slightly less steep than I did. I had to cut it very steeply so the angle was the same as the Type-100 mag, but I think it'd look better with a shallower angle - the steeper angle looks slightly off in a straight magazine well. The fact the gun isn't finished makes it look slightly off as well.
-Matt

Nice work bud, looks ok to me

excellent

Cheers guys
More progress over the past few days; i've decided to do as much as possible myself to cut down on gunsmithing/engineering costs; hopefull the the only bit i'll have to have made will be the front end.
What is causing me misery however is how to attach the sten to the stock - the idea I have in mind is to make a block out of milliput and 3 sides of a section of Mp40 (I have some lying around; it's ideally sized box section), araldite this to the gun then drill a hole through gun and stock using a pillar drill (or nearest available equivilant), then pin. I'm using the extra strong araldite; do you think this will take the strain? Contact area between the block the the gun will be about 1" square.
Anyway, today's progress. The bottom of the sten TMH was sticking out of the bottom of the stock, and it looked terrible. I removed the TMH from the gun, and carefully hacksawed a section off. Plasticard was shaped, then glued onto the gap, then the gaps in this filled with epoxy before the whole lot was sprayed black. The finish doesn't look quite even; thats only because of the flash. it's quite uniform in real life. I sprayed the mag as well.
The silver ally bit on the front is part of a soldering iron stand; it's just resting there to give a rough impression of the finished product. I may temporarily attach it.
Pics:



If this project ends well, with a decent looking Type-100, I have another planned (very rough mock up); the lower mag is standing in for a pistol grip:

I'll be needing a cheapsoft AEP pistol for the parts of this; if you have one going spare you'd like to trade for bits/kit/a small amount of cash please get in touch.
-Matt

Looks good buddy, not sure about the araldite. I can remember using it ages ago and it has its limits unfortunately.
Is there any way to make up a small L shaped bracket, bolt it in where the sten stock used to bolt to the rear of the receiver, and then screw it into the wood stock at the rear of the receiver ?
At the front I`d be tempted to drill the stock from underneath then insert a 6mm machine screw, find out where it touches the underside of the receiver then drill the receiver and tap it to a 6mm thread, then secure it with the machine screw. That way you have two securing points front and rear which should only need a philips screwdriver should you need to disassemble it in the field. Not sure if any of this is possible by looking at the pictures though ?

Sadly, I don't have a power drill or any tap or die sets. I don't think the gun will be subjected to any strong tension forces acting up/down - which is the only direction the bond can be broken in, so I think araldite may be worth a go. What i'll do is make the joint, then try my hardest to break it with my bare hands. If I can, then i'll send it off to be welded; if not, i'll keep it.
I may try a method similair to yours at the back end of the gun; the other plan for there was to use some sort of clasp to hold it down.
regards,
-matt

i take it your next project is an owen smg ??

good work on the type 100

Cheers. An owen gun indeed; as someone posted on another forum, I do seem to have a penchant for weird looking guns. It was either an Owen or a Type 96 LMG; the owen was similair and I already have the bits.
regards,
-Matt

Gun mounted into receiver:




In the end, I made up an epoxy/steel block and araldited it to the underside of the magwell. I sanded both surfaces, and washed with meths, before I glued them to ensure the strongest bond, then left to dry in front of the radiator for 24 hours. Once dry, I drilled a hole in the block, and matching ones in the stock, and attached with a spring loaded push pin from an old Mp5.
At the rear end of the stock, I used slick63's suggestion and made up an alumium bracket, bolted into the rear end of the sten gun receiver and screwed into the wooden stock.
The gun is now rock solid; I won't really know of the araldite is strong enough until I use the gun in a skirmish, but it seems to have done the trick.
All that remains now is the barrel shroud and repainting/refinishing; I don't think I can make the front end with the tools I have, but I will put some serious thought in and see what I can come up with.
regards,
-Matt

Nice work bud, that block at the front looks superb and seems to do the job nicely.

My barrel shroud came through the post today; it's designed for a Ruger 1022 but I thought it'd make a reasonable stand-in until I can get a propper one machined up. As it is, the holes are too big and the whole thing too long. For now, i'm considering the gun "finished" as it is fully skirmishable, but there's a myriad of small details I will be changing in the future to make the weapon look closer to the original. Hope you like,
-Matt

Finally Finished properly! (well, nearly...)
Still missing front sight, but I had the barrel jacket made up today - beautiful piece of work I can't claim any credit for whatsoever

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Hope you like,
-Matt

that really is an exellent job ,well done i hope you have many happy days with it

looks great mate, now you just need the chinese to copy it. actually, why not try and get it mass produced, and sell it on the japanese market

Thankyou very much
I'm chuffed personally - a project that turned out well for once! Remind me to keep employing people, at least until I get as lathe
Not sure it's really cloneable, as it's mainly steb gun to start with - it's quite close the the original, but not spot on sadly. I guess it's the beta spetsnaz of the type-100 world.
-Matt