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Poacher
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I thought that was a 1928 thing?

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Posted : 27/01/2012 9:00 pm
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There is a challenge in finding somewhere to hide the battery. It might be possible to squeeze a lipo battery into the handguard.

 
Posted : 28/01/2012 7:21 am
dadio
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i've thought about it and there's probably space for a lipo battery in the fore-grip if it was hollowed out and mounted slightly differently or a custom one built everso slightly bigger.otherwise i cant see any problems at all other than fitting a shorter screw into one of the stock mounting holes to hold the upper and lower recievers together.

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Posted : 28/01/2012 7:26 am
Poacher
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apparently

Evidence for such use?
The Thompson is rather a lump to fire live, without a stock 'spray and pray' has real meaning.
A lot of the pathfinders were wild but I'd like to see the photos.

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Posted : 28/01/2012 8:01 am
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Steve McQueen used one in Never so Few with Frank Sinatra.
So if Steve used one then it must be true :D , no other evidence is required :giggle:





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Posted : 28/01/2012 5:26 pm
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Stockless M1A1

Steve McQueen used one in Never so Few with Frank Sinatra.

No, that was an M1928, which has a readily removable stock, as Poacher has already alluded to.
It's M1A1s with out a stock we're talking about :)

Also; : sick :

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Posted : 28/01/2012 5:55 pm
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:shock:

 
Posted : 28/01/2012 7:09 pm
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Evidence for such use?
The Thompson is rather a lump to fire live, without a stock 'spray and pray' has real meaning.
A lot of the pathfinders were wild but I'd like to see the photos.

The place to look for pictures is Michel de Trez' book "American Warriors" which has a number of pre invasion pictures of men of the 82nd AB Pathfinders showing Thompsons with the stock removed and WW1 trench knife attached to the front furniture for quick access.

Take a look at the US WW2 airsoft forum at the link below for a thread on the same topic with some scans from the book.

http://ww2aa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=allied&action=display&thread=5476

-Marc-


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Posted : 28/01/2012 9:04 pm
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Stockless M1A1

Steve McQueen used one in Never so Few with Frank Sinatra.

No, that was an M1928, which has a readily removable stock, as Poacher has already alluded to.
It's M1A1s with out a stock we're talking about :) .

:slap: A-ah you are correct sir, that will teach me to read the OP with more due care and attention. You learn something new everyday round here, I always thought the stock fitting was the same for both models.
On the subject of that abomination you are showing, hang your head in shame :lol: , that should be band under the vialation of human rights, and even showing it for refrence should result in punishment. :giggle:





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Posted : 29/01/2012 6:00 am
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Also; : sick :

Beautiful :roll:
I cant tell Airsoft or real? the bolt makes me think airsoft



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Posted : 29/01/2012 11:41 pm
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If it's any consolation that a real Thompson hasn't been butchered - it's airsoft :?

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Posted : 30/01/2012 12:31 am
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Evidence for such use?
The Thompson is rather a lump to fire live, without a stock 'spray and pray' has real meaning.
A lot of the pathfinders were wild but I'd like to see the photos.

The place to look for pictures is Michel de Trez' book "American Warriors" which has a number of pre invasion pictures of men of the 82nd AB Pathfinders showing Thompsons with the stock removed and WW1 trench knife attached to the front furniture for quick access.

Take a look at the US WW2 airsoft forum at the link below for a thread on the same topic with some scans from the book.

http://ww2aa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=allied&action=display&thread=5476

Had they just removed the stocks for the landing, Marc?

 
Posted : 30/01/2012 1:15 am
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How is this for terrible logic?
"I would say most likely they're pathfinders, I don't see any evidence saying that they aren't."
Nor is there any evidence they are. They say as much in the post before the photos.
If you read further down the link to the American board, past the photos, yes, past the photos, one poster presents good evidence they are not in fact pathfinders.

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Posted : 30/01/2012 1:56 am
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Also; : sick :

Beautiful :roll:
I cant tell Airsoft or real? the bolt makes me think airsoft

No drum mag slots on the M1A1 receiver mag opening indicates airsoft.

Hmm - given me an idea of what to do with the "1928" Frankengun I have...

 
Posted : 30/01/2012 10:54 am
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The battery pack with wires running through the sling also kind of hints at airsoft. :wink:

 
Posted : 30/01/2012 1:48 pm
Tarnish
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How is this for terrible logic?
"I would say most likely they're pathfinders, I don't see any evidence saying that they aren't."
Nor is there any evidence they are. They say as much in the post before the photos.
If you read further down the link to the American board, past the photos, yes, past the photos, one poster presents good evidence they are not in fact pathfinders.

I've just retrieved my copy of the book in question from the loft thinking that there might be mention of them being pathfinders on the preceding page but there is not. I've always been of the understanding that the pics in question were 82nd AB Pathfinders but I guess that it is quite possible they were combat engineers or similar. I would say one thing though that the fact that there uniforms are not painted doesn't mean they are not 82nd Pathfinders. The pictures look to me to have been taken some while before D-Day, possibly it would appear in the grounds of a country house. A unit HQ perhaps in a similar manner that Littlecote House was the 101st Divisional Headquarters?

Either way it is clearly the case that whoever those men were they did at least experiment with M1A1 Thompsons with the stock removed. Given the lack of any further pictorial evidence later from later in the war I would imagine the idea went the same way as the chest mounted five cell mag pouches, the assault vest and numerous other fads and were quietly binned in light of experience.

Ten month old son and DIY allowing I'll see what else I can find in my other books, having also been re-enacting 101st since 2002 I've built up a little library on the subject. :)

-Marc-


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Posted : 30/01/2012 7:06 pm
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The battery pack with wires running through the sling also kind of hints at airsoft. :wink:

It could probably do with having a compensator too. ;)

 
Posted : 30/01/2012 7:22 pm
dadio
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The battery pack with wires running through the sling also kind of hints at airsoft. :wink:

It could probably do with having a compensator too. ;)

or a really big silencer and a digital camo paint job : sick :

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





 
Posted : 30/01/2012 8:12 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2uXBD1A ... re=related
Its real... :shock:



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Posted : 05/02/2012 9:49 pm
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:good:-- attachment is not available --

team shoot and scoot, TL

 
Posted : 08/02/2012 7:01 pm
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