Your questions, our answers

It is not specifically about two tones, OK, it is in as far as they should really not be allowed in any WWII event, but more about wanting clarity over what this event is.

My worry is that there is no real list of mean old rules telling us what is not allowed, and it is these rules that define what a game is and allow an informed choice on if one wants to attend.

Origionally, this event was marketed under the 'realism' banner, it was 24 hours in the field. It was a re-enactment with added Airsoft bbs, great. But now if there are two tones allowed that changes the style of event. More precisely it means the style of event is up for change again later.

Now the chances are that it is still worth going regardless, even a blatfest or an openday with the right people around you is entertaining enough, but it is really annoying when a change to the nature of an event happens after you have booked on, paid and prepared all the logistics for travel.

So if the organisers are just going to say 'yes' to every enquiry I will cese to be excited, and as it is my hobby too I do like to get excited about the things I do.

My thoughts exactly ...put a lot better than i could!

When Chris asked for a game section on the forum I proffered advice over a few PMs that detailed what, in the the light of experience, worked well in terms of offering an event to the good people that frequent this forum (and the other web website/Facebook incarnations). In amongst the 'words of wisdom' was one suggestion was that he took a look at all the previous games forum sections and follow the 'template' (clear delineation of information) and also that he takes the trouble to answer all the questions before they are asked. This not only makes the event look as though it has been carefully conceived from the start but it also saves an awful lot of subsequent argy-bargy and grief later on.

Hey-ho.

I suspect, given the history of the site/events, he is more used to the rather haphazard and incomplete PR (my subjective opinion based on what I've read and attended previously) of 'reenactment' events where not only is detailed information scarce but also attendees are somewhat non-committal. WW2 airsofters have been rather spoiled over the years and have come to expect fulsome and accurate information from the off, in return are 100% committed to the event.

Summary: while you have ever right to press for answers, cut the guy a bit of slack - what we do here and what we have done here might be a bit of a culture shock. It is a world away from a list of Facebook comments saying "Hey, cool!" "Sounds awesome, count me in buddy!!" etc etc

Yes, I am thinking this is more of a 'culture shock' thing as a blank fire event is attended by, I assume, Groups - and from listening to these groups most will not only have their own quality control, but inist that what they want goes.

So probably best to 'go as a group' and post our own 'restrictions' fro those wanting to go 'with us in our area'....

hmmm, that could work very well.

Yes, I think that sounds sensible, this event certainly seems to be comng from the re-enactment end of things, so it wil be quite interesting for those of us who haven't done much of that.

We seem to be forming a German 'group' around 26th Volks Grenadier Division.

Cheers
Martin

Yeah the problem is with WWII airsoft (on this forum) it's not really done that way...

Yes, there are some groups (not many), but most players are not members of any at all.

Instead the event organisers lay down the kit (and other) rules for the event they run.

BTW I dont think its illegal to spray your two tone to a more realistic colour - 2 tones are only there for people to buy if they do not currently hold a defence under the VCRA. Does that clarify a bit more to all?

I think that's not allowed actually - someone with more knowledge on the subject may put me right, but from what i've read i'm sure painting over two-tones is a no-no

A airsoft gun that looks like a real one is a RIF (Realistic imitation firearm). One that does not (eg two tone) is an IF (imitation firearm). Converting an IF to a RIF is an offense under the VCRA.

You need an exemption.

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Firt off there's plenty of time to have all our issues and questions ironed out, so let's give the organisers a chance to do exactly that. There's clearly demand for some clarification and i'm sure this will be forth coming as long as we allow fritz to reply before we all jump in with our opinions and preferences. Once the guy's answered then your free to make a decision based on that.
I hope this event is as described as it sounds a bit different and takes the ww2 airsoft on a step. Good luck Fritz and guys, bit of patience! it is a virtue after all.

BTW I dont think its illegal to spray your two tone to a more realistic colour

As per Yiths reply, this is completely illegal unless you have a valid VCR defence (in which case you wouldn't have a two tone anyway).

Anyway, thanks for all the replies and stuff, it is all much clearer now.

Cheers
Martin

its a sten,masking tape over it and spray the tape black, afterwards remove the tape and presto back to two tone and nobody's the wiser ,give him a break he's 16 and got a two tone sten rather than an m4 ,we need to encourage not put off,likewise with new organisers ,we are used to a type of culture but should not be blinkered and institutionalised but offer advice and encouragement.

Thank you dadio & fritz.
Thank you all the guys who offered to lend me a weapon.

I think this got a bit lost in all the palaver, but would M36 uniform be acceptable for this game? Dein and I will be coming as panzergrenadiers or volkgrenadier. Cheers

Just another quick question, is anyone going as brit?

I think this got a bit lost in all the palaver, but would M36 uniform be acceptable for this game? Dein and I will be coming as panzergrenadiers or volkgrenadier. Cheers

Obviously I'm not the organiser, but yes an M36 tunic is suitable for the whole war. Come and join the 26th VGD!

Obviously I'm not the organiser, but yes an M36 tunic is suitable for the whole war. Come and join the 26th VGD!

Excellent! Just wanted to check as I could have sworn that I've read uniform requirements for other games where M36 tunics are not allowed, I'll check the old accounts and get signed up pronto to join you guys in the VGD

I'm not sure any game has ever excluded M36 uniforms but anyway, reference this particular game: viewtopic.php?f=222&t=15446&p=219224

I think this got a bit lost in all the palaver, but would M36 uniform be acceptable for this game? Dein and I will be coming as panzergrenadiers or volkgrenadier. Cheers

Obviously I'm not the organiser, but yes an M36 tunic is suitable for the whole war. Come and join the 26th VGD!

Cheers Steiner, We'll deffinately take you up on that.

Ok Brits not really at Bastogne, but as I believe this game represents the later fighting, therefore we could stretch the imagination as Brits were deployed on the northern shoulder later in the battle.

Of course the real prize would be getting a large group of reenactors to an airsoft event who hopefully enjoy the experience and come to more WW2 Airsoft events

Ok good, I just didn't want to book and end up being the only brit there.

Could you just clarify the ammo limits?

IN THE FIELD 600 rd's per rifle/smg

Is this limit per 'life' OR for the whole game, with any resupply at the commanders discretion? ie no automatic resupply back at base if/when you get killed?

the latter sounds like a lot of fun....

Cheers
Martin