I have purchased the HBT Panzer Wrap uniform set & wondered if anyone could point me in the right direction for collar devices & Eagles. Impression is going to be Heer & not ss. Would the skull on black background on each collar and eagle on left sleeve be correct?
While we're at at, did the americans wear any insignia on the Tanker Jackets or HBT coveralls?
Thanks
'shokt
"The older I grow the more I distrust the familiar doctrine that age brings wisdom"
H.L.Mencken
Hi there,
for a Heer Tanker the collar insignia is black patches with skull & bones/ piping is pink. Shoulderboards should also be edged in pink.
National eagle to be worn on right breast.
hope this helps
JD7
That shows what a noob I am - I thought only SS wore the skull badge. 
You've got nothing to ein, zwei, drei, vier
The skull and crossbones is a Cavalry symbol that dates back a long, long time. IIRC, the 17th/21st Lancers in the british army had it as a cap badge for a long time.
When we were a Kingdom it was run by a King
When we were an Empire it was run by an Empress
Now we're a country we're run by a..........
I used to instruct for QRL cadets for awhile.
It was there 'motto' they dont call it a cap badge 
Was priveliged to be allowed to wear it myself though..
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
The skull and crossbones is a Cavalry symbol that dates back a long, long time. IIRC, the 17th/21st Lancers in the british army had it as a cap badge for a long time.
Ah, I see. Danke, Herr Kermit.
You've got nothing to ein, zwei, drei, vier
Thanks guys, just gotta find me some now 
"The older I grow the more I distrust the familiar doctrine that age brings wisdom"
H.L.Mencken
Soldier of Fortune - under insignia, other units, panzar (sic) 
All sorts of tabs, shoulder boards and metal badges.
You've got nothing to ein, zwei, drei, vier
Thanks Steiner, Epic militaria have got a few too
"The older I grow the more I distrust the familiar doctrine that age brings wisdom"
H.L.Mencken
http://www.nicholasmorigi.com/
Also has a very good selection of german insignia. Very quick turn round on orders. Quality is second to none.
As an aside, the wool field grey wrap [stug wrap] was issued to a select few panzer grenadiers. Panzer Lehr and the 116th Panzer Div being just 2.
Insignia worn varied, Lehr seem to have favoured litzen mounted on a green backing, piped for arm of service. 116th seem to have favoured panzer style patches in field grey, often with the skulls removed as per the '43 orders.
aka Stigroadie
AFRA
better by design
"Truth is a shining goddess, always veiled, always distant, never wholly approachable, but worthy of all the devotion of which the human spirit is capable. "
You could also get away with the black tab without the skull, the skull on its own or pink litzen, depending on wich particular unit you do.
Tip. Leave off the national eagle. Go for a 27th Penal Panzer Reg. loadout. Gives you far more scope for extra bits and bobs
I have a pair of full skull panzer collar patches if you still need them.
Heer Panzer Crew insignia:-
http://www.superimagehost.com/is.php?i=60762&img=Heer_Panzer_Ins.jpg
For Reference - I have other shots and additional uniform pics if anyone requires. Lemmie know what u want and if I have I'll let you know and upload/host the image.
JD7
Got any of the HBT uniform? Not easy to find.
aka Stigroadie
AFRA
better by design
"Truth is a shining goddess, always veiled, always distant, never wholly approachable, but worthy of all the devotion of which the human spirit is capable. "
Got any of the HBT uniform? Not easy to find.
Which branch? Panzer, Assault gun or infantry circa which era '43 or later?
i'll see what i can find, i have a few more HB ref books on order - waiting delivery
Del
HBT panzer, thats what this thread is about isnt it?
The Europa Militaria book has some, as do Militaria Magazine but it's always the same few items reposed.
aka Stigroadie
AFRA
better by design
"Truth is a shining goddess, always veiled, always distant, never wholly approachable, but worthy of all the devotion of which the human spirit is capable. "
HBT panzer, thats what this thread is about isnt it?
The Europa Militaria book has some, as do Militaria Magazine but it's always the same few items reposed.
Of course it is lol unfortunately I don't have the Europa Panzer book to compare pics.
I have a HBT Panzer cut jacket pic, with the skull collar patches
http://www.superimagehost.com/usr/1097/HBT_Panzer_Jkt1.jpg
http://www.superimagehost.com/usr/1097/HBT_Panzer_Jkt3.jpg
http://www.superimagehost.com/usr/1097/HBT_Panzer_Jkt2.jpg
Nice pictures Del, Could you point me in the right direction for the correct 'badges' for the side cap, have just managed to get one on Ebay. I assume it to be an Eagle and below that a 'cockade'
Thanks
Steve
"The older I grow the more I distrust the familiar doctrine that age brings wisdom"
H.L.Mencken
http://www.nicholasmorigi.com/
You want a triangular bevo one rather than the wool backed version. Which ever you choose they are tricky to sew, well was for me, 3 goes to get it straight and smooth.
aka Stigroadie
AFRA
better by design
"Truth is a shining goddess, always veiled, always distant, never wholly approachable, but worthy of all the devotion of which the human spirit is capable. "
Better to buy a M43 with em allready sewn on,
