hi,could any one give me a ruff date for these P38 Holster and MG mag pouch, cheers
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Just a ruff guess will do anyone,1940's 1950's 1960's ?
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Near impossible to make one without seeing any markings at all. Its a pretty generic looking european to eastern bloc holster for any point up to 1980 in some satelite states.
Are there no markings at all, what does the back of it look like? Anything written inside, even a name might give a country of origin.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
No markings of anykind gadge,bought them as they look great together.the chap told me they was ww11 but not sure myself.
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As you prob know anyway if they are wwii german they will be waffen ampt stamped.
They are not Brit or US, if it is wwii my money is on a eastern or northern european state. Probably not swedish as i've got swedish bandoliers and they use different leather and fastening.
You'll prob get a better response on the re-enacting forums if you havnt already tried there.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
Dont look WW2 but as Gadge said without any markings/stamps etc its anyones guess.
The twin mag pouch looks(in the pic anyway)much too big to hold P38 mags??
The twin mag pouch looks(in the pic anyway)much too big to hold P38 mags??
There MG mag pouch'es
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If they fit mp40/38 mags then they are not german or wwii, if they are they are some rare beast i've never seen nor read about.
Leather MP38 pouches are occasionally seen very early war.
How do they close, popper fastener, studs, etc?
My guess is eastern european police kit, leather webbing pretty much goes out the window in most armies after the early years of wwii as its just too expensive and time consuming to mass produce.
Try the axis history forums. Someone on there will probably recognise it, even if its not wwii I'd imagine someone else has seen them being sold as such.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
The West Germans post war used a version of the P38 called the P1 and also used the UZI so could they be for these weapons???
The only other country to have officialy adopted the P38 post war was Sweden who designated it the Pistol Model 39.Sweden also used i believe the Karl Gustav SMG of which its mags look a similar size to the pouch so could be either i guess????
I thought Swedish but I've a swedish leather ammo bandolier and its very very different in design, leather quality and colour.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."