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Old Un
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Basic German or Russian kit will probably set you back around £100-150, for tunic trousers belt boots some insignia and some form of hat. Field gear up to yourself .

Brit I believe is a bot more , no idea about Yank .

As said elsewhere , better to buy half decent uniform, that has a resale value , than cheap look alike stuff which if you decide you don't want you'll struggle to get rid off when you want to upgrade.

As to where to buy , read the kits guides , it's all there. :good:

 
Posted : 13/06/2011 8:55 pm
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or keep looking in the For Sale section on here :good:

 
Posted : 13/06/2011 9:07 pm
Joseph Porta
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a german or russain greatcoat is a good start, and it can cover a multitude of sins underneath :D (also lovley and warm for winter)

my first game as a russain, i had a greatcoat and boots , crappy nylon brown trousers (muddied up) , a t shirt (unseen under the coat) and a belt and ammo pouches, and a cheap pilotka cap

you could only see 5 or 6 inches of the trousers, so it didnt look out of place.

also the PPSH is a very good all round gun, nice big magazine of 100 rounds, or high cap, and good range too
also any wooden bolt action airsoft gun could be used, and you can get some nice and cheap :good:

hope this helps mate, and as guy said, check the kit guides, there great

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Posted : 13/06/2011 9:28 pm
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To echo the comments above, probably a very basic German look, especially if you just go for a camo smock, cap and HBT trousers and a belt with gaiters over modern boots. If you don't like MP40s then use a PPSh.

Russian stuff is fairly cheap as you don't need tons of webbing and gear, but you'll need to hunt around for a cheap uniform supplier, and HIKI seems to be rapidly running out of cheap Russian gear in most sizes.

A cheap British look might be jumper+denim trousers+basic webbing. My experience of British BD so far is that it is eye wateringly expensive unless you get lucky with 2nd hand stuff.

Cheers
Martin

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Posted : 14/06/2011 8:27 am
Cadaceus
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It would help if you gave us an approx budget you had in mind

US HBT's can be cheap with just a pistol belt, water bottle carrier and and a thomPson mag bag, M1 helmet, gaiters and any brown ankle boots (I use low riding boots, you can't see much of them under the gaiters

Having said all that even if spending on a budget get what you like the look of and an impression of a unit/country that you like also get bit by bit rather than compromising now and spending twice as much later
Cad

Impressions:
U.S. 35th Inf Tech Sargeant
British Royal Artillery Gunner
Generic SS Mann
Weapons:
Cyma M1A1
ASG Sten MK2
ASG MP40
TM M1911A1
WE Browning High Power
HFC Mauser C96

 
Posted : 14/06/2011 2:47 pm
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My budget is a max of £150, i also see you have the AGM Sten... any good?

Yet to skirmish with it but am taking it to F&O Bolton woods on 30th July so crossed fingers
Shoots very nice in back garden though and feels very sturdy although have not given in to temptation and tried to brain my kids with it but I'm sure t would hold up nicely lol

As I said above think of a unit you really want to do an impression of and get bits as and when you get a real sense of achievement then
I got the US started first then the Brit but was lucky it was my 40th birthday and cheekily asked for cash from everybody but I still need a few bits (as always) to finish them off
Where abouts are you?

Cad

Impressions:
U.S. 35th Inf Tech Sargeant
British Royal Artillery Gunner
Generic SS Mann
Weapons:
Cyma M1A1
ASG Sten MK2
ASG MP40
TM M1911A1
WE Browning High Power
HFC Mauser C96

 
Posted : 14/06/2011 2:58 pm
Cadaceus
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Was just going to plug Platoon in Bury ( near where I live) as they have some bargains frok time to time got a Danish M43 jacket same cut as us ww2 for £30

Cad

Impressions:
U.S. 35th Inf Tech Sargeant
British Royal Artillery Gunner
Generic SS Mann
Weapons:
Cyma M1A1
ASG Sten MK2
ASG MP40
TM M1911A1
WE Browning High Power
HFC Mauser C96

 
Posted : 14/06/2011 3:06 pm
Gadge
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My budget is a max of £150, i also see you have the AGM Sten... any good?

You could quite easily get some denims or kd, a pair of boots and some basic brit webbing for a NA/Mediteranian or commando type loadout to get started with for £150 if you shop about and dont expect to get it all in a 'one stop shop'. Worry about BD later.

I mean given it was probably four years ago so might be *slighly* more expensive now I got

denim original BD blouse off ebay for £11
some repro denim bd trousers off the WWII reenating forums secondhand (in perfect condition) for £10
A cap comforter for £5
Post war ammo boots for £25 (i picked up some DMS boots which are probably *better* for skirmishing for £8 on ebay last week(
Basic webbing shoudl et you back about £30
Anklets used to be £3 a pair at sabre sales.

So if you budgeted yourslef £30 a piece for the denims you should be able to get the rest for less than £60 f you keep asking on different forums.

You can drop on with wool BD too, depends on your size. if you're eithe tiny or massive you'll obviously get it cheaper second hand as it wont fit most folk.




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Posted : 14/06/2011 3:15 pm
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I'd say Russian or Brit are your best bet for cheap kit. Brit beacuse the webbing is cheap, Russian because you don't need much! There is also more of a surplus of clothing as they both retained the WWII style uniform for much longer. Being you're age you have the advantage that you can probaly fit in original kit that most of us can't. Gadge has given a pretty good list of Brit kit so here is one for the Russians:

Post war Russian breeches- can be picked up for as little as £15
Post war M43 Tunic- for not alot more, say £20-£25
Pilotka £5
Passable leather belt £5
Ammo pouch - £5 for postwar Mosin Nagant, £15 for PpSh
Canteen + cover £15
Gas maks bag- £16
Puttee to cover modern boots. £10

By no means perfect but certainly passable enough with everything you need for the average day game. Of course you may get cheaper or better kit if you shop around for 2nd hand sales. The main problem with Russian is the price of the gun but you could always do a Bar10 conversion on the cheap like Komrade did with some good results.

 
Posted : 14/06/2011 3:45 pm
Rooster
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Im willing to spend about £350 on a gun so that shouldn't be a problem...

PAPASHA (PPSH) heard nothing but good things about them, if you have both sten and PPSH your covered for all ww2 games, unless a pacific one comes up, but then you could say sten was type 100



WW2 Weapons AGM Sten, AGM MP40

 
Posted : 14/06/2011 10:38 pm
 stof
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What size are you ?

I have a Greek battledress size 4 38''- 40'' been altered by a seamstress to 1940 pattern, and a pair of Canadian BD trousers that are almost a perfect match for the BD also been altered with an FD pocket added size 3 ,32'' waist
Both a bit more green than british but having said that less green than my genuine British greatcoat, want £60 for the pair and I'll throw in a pair of postwar anklets size 2 and a postwar black beret size 58 ,plus postage at cost.
A good starter set and would pass for War Aid kit.

 
Posted : 15/06/2011 8:27 am
 Yith
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Im willing to spend about £350 on a gun so that shouldn't be a problem...

Why not save some money on the gun and put a bit more into the rest of the impression?

 
Posted : 15/06/2011 8:47 am
Old Un
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Im willing to spend about £350 on a gun so that shouldn't be a problem...

Why not save some money on the gun and put a bit more into the rest of the impression?

Yes ..Quite Rich ..my thought too . :good:

The real question is why do you want to get into WW2 airsoft ? If it's just "another loadout" to go with all the others then it's probably not really for you to be blunt . It'll cost you time effort and money, and I think you'll find that the game genre as a whole is not like "regular" airsoft , even the various "milsim" events . It's as much about getting a sense of "being there" of "identification" for a lot of folk .

If you go to a Gunman event , he will loan you kit , and quite often if you come to any other event and ask, people will lend you kit for an event . Both cheap ways of coming along and seeing if you like it .

As to which side, most people have a natural affinity to a side , a preferred leaning if you like , and often the various countries portrayed have a feel to them which you may or may not like. Just liking a Sten doesn't mean you'll feel at home with the Brits , nor buying an MP40 you won't find Germans anoying :rofl: The choice of which gun to buy is almost secondary to this , in the end it is just a tool you will use on the day.

As to sourcing kit , read the kits guides , it's all there , along with the 1000's of posts on this forum already about where how much and how good most of it is .

Truthfully though, the best way to find out is go to any event, talk to people and take it from there. That should only cost you the price of a ticket .

 
Posted : 15/06/2011 4:09 pm
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The real question is why do you want to get into WW2 airsoft ? If it's just "another loadout" to go with all the others then it's probably not really for you to be blunt.

That isn't necessarily the question. Not everyone buys WW2 kit to go to WW2 games, there are a lot out there who are quite happy to wear WW2 kit in amongst all the other flavours of uniforms at open days, and it could well be 'just another loadout' to them. Nothing wrong with that at all. Certainly no point telling someone 'it probably isn't for you'.
Mitchell is only 12, his perspective and reasons might be different to others, and no less valid. His very first post here was "at the moment I just play normal airsoft and own a G&G GR16... I aim to make a loadout to use in airsoft not for re-enactment...". That's not to say he shouldn't be encouraged to attend WW2 games if his parents will cart him about the country of course, and Gunman games may well be a good way to start, but open days in WW2 kit are just as fun to many, and posters have been very helpful thus far. :wink:

 
Posted : 15/06/2011 6:17 pm
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On that last point, I really enjoy open day 'softing in ww2 gear. It makes you recongisable, and the kit isn't hald bad to be honest, although i'm slightly outgunned with one highcap PPSh mag compared to half of the players at my site with about 10 high cap M4 mags! As long as you enjoy being a bit outgunned sometimes at open days, then WW2 kit is perfectly acceptable!

 
Posted : 15/06/2011 7:11 pm
Gadge
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+1 to that, you'll find wwii era wool kit very hardwearing too.

I've used the same set of brit battledress for about seven years (both airsoft and living history) and the same set of german feldgrau for about the last four... neither show any sign of needing repair despite battling through thorny woods, being soaked all weekend (keeps you warm when wet too unlike modern fabrics) and crawling through urban rubble.

The other good thing i've found about any type of 'historical' impression/loadout/outfit is that its not constantly being made obsolete (its obsolete to start with :) ) by new kit issue. I mean when i used to do a lot of open days I had 'cutting edge' brit and russian kit, now however it's all out of date. I personally got sick of the 'arms race' of gadgets in regular airsoft and as many on here will probably tesify it's a good 'back to basics' approach where the 'game' is more important and the playing field more level as it's not about ow many RIS gubbins you can strap to some modular assault rifle (thats not to say its any *cheaper* in the long run as many get obsessed with buying virtually everythign the wwii soldier was issued).

In closing, i applaud you as a young lad going against the mainstream and choosing a look that different and interests you. Now if you can only persuad your mates as well... :)

Good luck with it!




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Posted : 15/06/2011 7:40 pm
Old Un
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The real question is why do you want to get into WW2 airsoft ? If it's just "another loadout" to go with all the others then it's probably not really for you to be blunt.

That isn't necessarily the question. Not everyone buys WW2 kit to go to WW2 games, there are a lot out there who are quite happy to wear WW2 kit in amongst all the other flavours of uniforms at open days, and it could well be 'just another loadout' to them. Nothing wrong with that at all. Certainly no point telling someone 'it probably isn't for you'.
Mitchell is only 12, his perspective and reasons might be different to others, and no less valid. His very first post here was "at the moment I just play normal airsoft and own a G&G GR16... I aim to make a loadout to use in airsoft not for re-enactment...". That's not to say he shouldn't be encouraged to attend WW2 games if his parents will cart him about the country of course, and Gunman games may well be a good way to start, but open days in WW2 kit are just as fun to many, and posters have been very helpful thus far. :wink:

Wasn't clear from his original post that this user is a child . No dramas, perhaps you should have an under 18's bit though, because quite a few of the posters on his thread have assumed as i did this is an adult looking to come to WW2 airsoft events .
Best of luck Mitchell , since the only children to regularly serve in WW2 were Russian and German , if you wish to be authentic that would give you a pointer, if you're a small 12 year old then Greek BD might be for you .
See you in six years :good:

 
Posted : 15/06/2011 8:27 pm
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+1 to that, you'll find wwii era wool kit very hardwearing too.

Add warm to that. I wear my WW2 airborne kit at winter open days. It can be -1C out there and everyone else is turning blue while I'm perfectly comfortable. :good:

 
Posted : 16/06/2011 8:59 pm
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