has there ever been a bolt action only game

It's something we (as PBI) thought about in the past, as we've trained as a rifle section, but until there's an easily affordable K98 and No4, we've shelved it as an idea, purely down to logistics.

Hopefully the co2 K98 might actually work, and come in at a usable price, with a No.4 to follow. Until then, it's not an option.

I tend to be of the view that any general Wood effect bolt action, is more 'accurate' than a spot on SMG.

But I am still umming and ahhhing.

I tend to be of the view that any general Wood effect bolt action, is more 'accurate' than a spot on SMG.

But I am still umming and ahhhing.

If you've got one, then yes, fair enough. I don't have any bolt action gun though, so I'd still have to fork out £100 or so for a VSR clone which i'd have no real interest in owning, so just I probably wouldn't bother.

The simple solution would be a single-shot only game. No need to restrict weapons, just restrict ammo and ensure no-one goes full auto.

Slightly different from bolt action only, but easier to get the players and certainly a good way to test the theory.

The simple solution would be a single-shot only game. No need to restrict weapons, just restrict ammo and ensure no-one goes full auto.

Slightly different from bolt action only, but easier to get the players and certainly a good way to test the theory.

That's not a bad idea actually.

CiA did a single shot evening at bryansk - it was a hoot.

A nice change

I was at a game run by Gunman a while back where, inadvertently, nearly everyone was using bolt-actions except for the 'officers' in game (there was quite a few new and gun-hire cases, so the rental bolt-actions were heavily fielded).
It has been one of my favourite WW2 games yet;- and it was only one of the 'Ops' weekends!

a single shot only game would be more acsesible to most,there are quite a few m14's out there that look good enough and a bit of scrim will cover up even an m4 provideing you revove any optics.if people could marshal themselves to leave 3 or 4 seconds between shots to simulate cocking time it could work well enough that i would give it a go.

a single shot only game would be more acsesible to most,there are quite a few m14's out there that look good enough and a bit of scrim will cover up even an m4 provideing you revove any optics.if people could marshal themselves to leave 3 or 4 seconds between shots to simulate cocking time it could work well enough that i would give it a go.

Three to four seconds!

I'm assuming your bolt action is rusted solid then

You can easily get off 30 aimed shots a minutes with a Shoot N Scoot lee enfield (a trained solder with a real one could do around 45) and they have a long pull on them.

I'd imagine a gas powered one like a Tanaka would be even quicker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x3lOZ4y ... re=related

Soldiers on the recieving end of British 'mad minute' rifle fire often thought they were up against MGs...

And for the sake of balance the same with a K98, only the small magazine limits the rate of fire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haf9QURx ... re=related

edit: listen to just a handful of blokes doing mad minute fire and then imagine *companys* doing it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lYxJwwm ... re=related

i grant that 3-4 seconds is slow but i recon cocking a spring airsoft rifle is a little harder than real steel,not to mention the real ones may be smoother and easier to keep trained dureing cocking.add that to the fact that most of us arnt trained to do the mad minuite .haveing said all that maybe 1-2 seconds is a better delay to negate the advantage of aeg's,if you just leave it a single only then an aeg will fire as fast as you can pull the trigger,easilly 3-4 per second.

Answer is yes , we did one in 2008, an evening game, pistols and bolties only .

The genuine ex Major we had with us thought it was the closest he'd seen to some "proper" (ie realisitc) airsofting ...his opinion of airsofting is generally low .

i grant that 3-4 seconds is slow but i recon cocking a spring airsoft rifle is a little harder than real steel,not to mention the real ones may be smoother and easier to keep trained dureing cocking.add that to the fact that most of us arnt trained to do the mad minuite .haveing said all that maybe 1-2 seconds is a better delay to negate the advantage of aeg's,if you just leave it a single only then an aeg will fire as fast as you can pull the trigger,easilly 3-4 per second.

I see your point but you forget that CiA and similar organisers use a 300 round limit so you can blat off rounds a silly speed but you'll soon run out leaving you at the mercy of those with fire discipline.

While in theory its a sound idea to self marshall to 3/4 seconds i think it would be in reality unworkable. many batles already ask players to limit full auto bursts to less than 3 seconds and that frequently gets forgotten once the plastic starts flying.

If single shot only has been proven to work and seems to have been well liked then it's probably not worth convoluting it?

My main point though was that civilian shooters in those posts (who are not soldiers with years of training on said rifles, even the oldest among them woudl be of the semi auto battle rifle generation if ex military) can get rates of fire off that exceed 1 per second...

I'd attend a bolts only game, but I think if it was me I'd a. Be reluctant to allow M14's as a trigger pull is much faster than using a bolt and b. the day I see an M4 at a WW2 event is the day I go home.
Leader with an AEG and an MG crew with a load of bolt actions. Bring it on!

i was just makeing a sugestion and i grant that the heat of the action and ammo limits would make it either unworkable or redundant.my thought was just to even the playing field while makeing it acsesible,however i'd far rather be in a game with only one smg ,one mg/lmg per side with the rest with bolt action rifles and no aeg's on semi.operation red cap last winter was the nearest ive seen to that,largely because gunman had a lot of hire bolt action rifles,so mutch so that i left my bren unused on its maiden period game because i felt it would ruin it.

I was at a game run by Gunman a while back where, inadvertently, nearly everyone was using bolt-actions except for the 'officers' in game (there was quite a few new and gun-hire cases, so the rental bolt-actions were heavily fielded).
It has been one of my favourite WW2 games yet;- and it was only one of the 'Ops' weekends!

operation red cap last winter was the nearest ive seen to that,largely because gunman had a lot of hire bolt action rifles,so mutch so that i left my bren unused on its maiden period game because i felt it would ruin it.

Yup, that was the game I was thinking of too - was terrific!

I agree, accessibility in WW2 airsoft is one of the most important things...but an M4. Anyway sign me up Haha!

I say bolt only except with special dispensation from the organisers for a couple of SMGs. In addition Yanks can have a garand/M14 with a maximum mag size of 20 rounds. Russians SVT's similar, Germans can have their semi rifle... whatever that's called is .

I think it would be rubbish to allow Tommy guns (etc) firing semi-auto.

As for low numbers, it may be that this will actually draw more numbers, not do the opposite.

Oh, and all at under 350fps without side arms or scopes. Maybe scoped weapons above that, but again very limited in numbers. Maybe one a side?

If someone could buy a load of china Bolt actions for rental, this would be a great game
as long as you didnt get pedantic about what side uses what like no K98's for Brits or Russians
Edit: sorry i meant event not game

Hi, a mainly rifle game would be great and many games have almost got there. Ariel for example!

Regarding the sub 350 fps thing and lots of sub machine guns on single shot only. I agree with Yith that it would be a bit pants, lots of single shot firing sub machine guns so why not just set a side and role limit so only a minimum of smgs are present and when the available smg roles are gone thats it! It would probably be best to allow full power rifles with a MED and sidearm but if people have a semi auto rifle like an M14 (which tend to be under 350fps) fire them in single shot as the fire rate is balanced by the reduced range.

Ammo limits will control the spray and pray urges.

I would come to a mainly rifles game if I could make the date and location but it makes sense to try and let people use what they have but bend it into a more realistic form to make a better game and to help get sufficient numbers.