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(@mattywheels)
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M38 Fallschirmjäger helmet with custom paint job from Richard Underwood

 
Posted : 30/10/2012 7:32 pm
Moss
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A pair of gaitors and a tankie's helmet that has already been converted to a para helmet and was apparently used in ' a bridge too far'!!! The guy also threw in a canteen holder for free, all for £50!!!

 
Posted : 01/11/2012 1:28 pm
dadio
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FJ helmet ,splinter b cover for FJ helmet and mess tin set ,now feel a bit more of a fallschirmjager and my a frame is loaded.

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m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
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Posted : 03/11/2012 6:50 pm
Gadge
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Well a Zelt is a 4 section tent for 4 men, but any more than me and my kit is out of the question :slap:

Not strictly true i think, i dont think all four of you were supposed to sleep in it at any one time. I think the idea (as with modern armies) is that 2 of you would be resting, one of you doing duties like cooking or maintaining kit and another guy keeping watch.

I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to sleep four at one time.




"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."

 
Posted : 05/11/2012 1:57 pm
MartinR
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A beautifully re-finished SnS Bren gun, thank you Rich.

A new toy to play with in 2013.

Cheers
Martin

"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" Helmuth von Moltke
Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.
Arnhem3,Gumrak,Campoleone

 
Posted : 22/11/2012 9:29 am
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One pair of high black leather riding boots with width enough to fit my fat old calves.

 
Posted : 22/11/2012 11:43 am
Universal Gunner
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A beautifully re-finished SnS Bren gun, thank you Rich.

A new toy to play with in 2013.

Cheers
Martin

Exceptionally envious. If you need support I'm more than willing to offer assistance. Would be a chance to use the Bren utility pouches!

Charlie

I have a small skewer hidden in the collar of my jumping jacket, and a razorblade in my gaiter, as well as my knife.

 
Posted : 22/11/2012 12:38 pm
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If you need support I'm more than willing to offer assistance

Thanks, the British seem a bit short of support weapons unlike the Germans with their plethora of MG42s (even if half of them don;t seem to work!). I need to play with it a bit get a feel for how it is working. I did some field testing with Rich at the Gothic Line, but didn't really get a chance to let rip with it. If it is a bog standard SnS Bren it will only be doing around 280 fps and is going to need a bit of upgrading.

Main thing is of course getting all the right bits - sling, utility pouches, tool wallet etc :)

I already have the Bren manual, which is handy. What I really like about it is that it isn't much bigger than a rifle, so fairly easy to handle, albeit quite a bit heavier.

Cheers
Martin

"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" Helmuth von Moltke
Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.
Arnhem3,Gumrak,Campoleone

 
Posted : 22/11/2012 2:28 pm
Universal Gunner
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Main thing is of course getting all the right bits - sling, utility pouches, tool wallet etc :)

Absolutely, I have the pouches and the wallet (not much use really - spare battery or allen keys). I was working my way up to the actual gun!

I have a small skewer hidden in the collar of my jumping jacket, and a razorblade in my gaiter, as well as my knife.

 
Posted : 22/11/2012 2:49 pm
Ramsay00105
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Seems to vary between units, but BREN gunner often only had spare parts wallet. Utility pouches being carried by number 2 and 3.

I agree with your thoughts on lack of British support weapons. It made my job harder at Gothic as the people in "support" with SMG's were running out of ammo by the time the assault teams got close.



 
Posted : 22/11/2012 5:28 pm
MartinR
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I wasn't thinking of lugging the utility pouches and the gun at the same time, more of having a bit of extra kit to give to a lucky Number 2. to carry. I could get a lot of sandwiches in two spare pouches....

Cheers
Martin

"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" Helmuth von Moltke
Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.
Arnhem3,Gumrak,Campoleone

 
Posted : 22/11/2012 6:58 pm
Universal Gunner
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Seems to vary between units, but BREN gunner often only had spare parts wallet. Utility pouches being carried by number 2 and 3.

I agree with your thoughts on lack of British support weapons. It made my job harder at Gothic as the people in "support" with SMG's were running out of ammo by the time the assault teams got close.

Definitely for the No 2 together with the barrel bag. I was hoping to give mine an airing at Greenback as Fremsley and I were going to take out Dadio's Bren but in the end the scenario didn't really call for it.

I wasn't thinking of lugging the utility pouches and the gun at the same time, more of having a bit of extra kit to give to a lucky Number 2. to carry. I could get a lot of sandwiches in two spare pouches....

Yes I don't think I'd have any trouble filling them either.

I have a small skewer hidden in the collar of my jumping jacket, and a razorblade in my gaiter, as well as my knife.

 
Posted : 22/11/2012 7:09 pm
Gadge
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Its night on impossible to shoulder the weapon with the ancillary pouches on properly, unless you do the field expedient on one fore, one aft but even that makes any other kit a pig and small pack useless.

deffo should be on the no2 for the bren, his job is just to lug ammo .




"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."

 
Posted : 22/11/2012 7:15 pm
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Its night on impossible to shoulder the weapon with the ancillary pouches on properly, unless you do the field expedient on one fore, one aft but even that makes any other kit a pig and small pack useless.

deffo should be on the no2 for the bren, his job is just to lug ammo .

I think they were designed to be carried fore and aft; they are named front and rear and the manual says the yoke is worn over "one shoulder" not around the neck, so the field expedient way is probably that more conventionally seen - of them being worn above each utility pouch. Certainly wearing them back and front makes the (what I already find quite difficult) task of putting the small pack on a tangled stumbling nightmare.

I have a small skewer hidden in the collar of my jumping jacket, and a razorblade in my gaiter, as well as my knife.

 
Posted : 22/11/2012 7:34 pm
Gadge
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The manual shows them worn both to the fore, as do contemporary illustrations of the rifle section. I've not seen any official documentation showing them worn front and rear so it's odd they are marked so but it is more practical.

AFAIK they are designed to be worn as part of marching order with the large pack on the back, small pack on hip and pouches to the front.




"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."

 
Posted : 22/11/2012 7:42 pm
Universal Gunner
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The manual shows them worn both to the fore, as do contemporary illustrations of the rifle section. I've not seen any official documentation showing them worn front and rear so it's odd they are marked so but it is more practical.

AFAIK they are designed to be worn as part of marching order with the large pack on the back, small pack on hip and pouches to the front.

It's there if you look...

http://www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/1937/ ... ritp37.pdf

Plates 17, 18 and 19.

Interestingly they are shown being worn with cartridge carriers, so far more as general utility pouches.

I have a small skewer hidden in the collar of my jumping jacket, and a razorblade in my gaiter, as well as my knife.

 
Posted : 22/11/2012 7:49 pm
Gadge
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The manual shows them worn both to the fore, as do contemporary illustrations of the rifle section. I've not seen any official documentation showing them worn front and rear so it's odd they are marked so but it is more practical.

AFAIK they are designed to be worn as part of marching order with the large pack on the back, small pack on hip and pouches to the front.

It's there if you look...

http://www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/1937/ ... ritp37.pdf

Plates 17, 18 and 19.

Interestingly they are shown being worn with cartridge carriers, so far more as general utility pouches.

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hmm that link doesnt work for me.




"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."

 
Posted : 23/11/2012 12:02 am
Universal Gunner
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hmm that link doesnt work for me.

No, it seems that it's a link too far.

It's in the first manual listed on this page:

http://www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/1937/ ... nuals.html

I have a small skewer hidden in the collar of my jumping jacket, and a razorblade in my gaiter, as well as my knife.

 
Posted : 23/11/2012 12:07 am
Gadge
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Cant believe i've never noticed that before.

It is an utter pig to use full of loaded mags with it like that and trying to wear a small pack. we found over weekends of use of webbing fully loaded doing re-enacting that the side by side on the front was the easiest carry as long as you dont expect the bren no2 to actually shoot anything :)




"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."

 
Posted : 23/11/2012 12:16 am
McVickers
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hmm that link doesnt work for me.

No, it seems that it's a link too far.

It's in the first manual listed on this page:

http://www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/1937/ ... nuals.html

Direct link to "Pouchs, Utility" discription page here:
http://www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/1937/LoC/patt_37/html/LoC_B1624.html

Note, they're officially called, in this document, 'Pouches, Utility' and not 'Pouches, Auxiliary' or 'Pouches, BREN'.
[And no, before anyone flames me without clicking the link above, I haven't got my pouches mixed up; these are the 'front' and 'rear' specific over the shoulder type]

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Posted : 23/11/2012 8:19 pm
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