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Chomley-Warner
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Sorry for leaping in to take advantage of the postponement of Oosterbeek.

As you know you pipped us at the post for a September date and the only date we could muster between the four of us was the August bank holiday weekend. Not ideal in many ways, so a bit of a muggins choice. It was rapidly looking like we might have to cancel Jedburgh but once September was free we could switch back to plan A and now we just hope more players will be available. Time will tell.

It does feel a bit like 'dead men's shoes', well perhaps putting on someone else's warm slippers but meh, an opportunity had to be seized! :wink:


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 10:02 am
 Yith
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I don't blame you for doing it at all. Good luck with the event!


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 10:05 am
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We needed the bookings, it was looking like our first flop because of Dettling .


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 10:07 am
 Yith
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Well I must admit I thought you were totally mad to choose that weekend.


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 10:14 am
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Well I must admit I thought you were totally mad to choose that weekend.

Totally agree , but we were stuck with the availablility of all four of us.


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 10:16 am
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It wasn't completely daft though - Husky was the bank holiday weekend last year so there was hope. Anyhoo, should have a much better chance with September. Silver linings and all that!


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 10:22 am
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Ah but not the August Bank Holiday... events seem to like that date.

Anyway all sorted now.


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 10:24 am
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Fine by me.

I'd be much happier if we put on a more united public face though rather than rowing in public so much about several things lately... it creating a visible 'tension' that is not going to do anyone any favours.

RE medals, fps debates etc.

Personally i dont care to strongly about them but im wary that everytime rich or nige have said something its been misconstrued as 'pbi doctrine'

Rightly or wrongly with Dave and Kermit on one sie of an argument and rich and nige on the other it *could* appear like PBI vs Cia.

Again, last thing i want from this is a row, i just think a little detente is in order.





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Posted : 10/07/2009 11:53 am
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Fine by me.

I'd be much happier if we put on a more united public face though rather than rowing in public so much about several things lately... it creating a visible 'tension' that is not going to do anyone any favours.

RE medals, fps debates etc.

Personally i dont care to strongly about them but im wary that everytime rich or nige have said something its been misconstrued as 'pbi doctrine'

Rightly or wrongly with Dave and Kermit on one sie of an argument and rich and nige on the other it *could* appear like PBI vs Cia.

Again, last thing i want from this is a row, i just think a little detente is in order.

No danger of that ( PBI vs CIA) IMHO , we're just different parts of the same family. A bit of debate once in a while is healthy , as we seem to know when to stop it blowing into full blown war !


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 11:55 am
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No agreed but I was acutely aware that some of the threads did look as if we were always opposed, and as with any good organisation, its healthy to critically assess each others views or downright have a cleairng the air blow out - but not in front of the rank and file ;)

I think what did it was the Cia 350+ , PBI 350- divide that isnt actually there but kept getting quoted as if Richs positive experience with a standard powered rifle was somehow a new ruling.





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Posted : 10/07/2009 12:00 pm
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LOL, Rich mentioned majority PBI backing for low power rifles not me! And you supported 328fps max for all guns.
The thread title was "Bolt actions and high fps, discuss.." not "Bolt actions and high fps, discuss.. except for Chomley or anyone else who happens to be part of the CiA team"
plus my entire argument was that Yith's argument was flawed in so many ways.

Somehow Yith and Nige brought danger and injury into it and turned anti-Tanaka and it mightily pissed off K98 users I can tell you, having fielded PMs, emails and phone calls subsequently.

An ill advised thread really especially following a successful event when people were specifically asked to bring rifles if they could and turned out to be - I think - the most rifles EVER seen at a WW2 game to date. And event where there was no one squeak of the more usual Thompson moaning!

Great that Rich worked so well with a sub 350fps rifle - exactly as I had asked players to consider in my pre-game briefings!


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 12:14 pm
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I think what did it was the Cia 350+ , PBI 350- divide that isnt actually there but kept getting quoted as if Richs positive experience with a standard powered rifle was somehow a new ruling.

Which it ain't cos at least one member of PBI (Sgt. Heide) likes his high-powered, stay-at-the-back stuff..


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 12:15 pm
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Better to have this discussion about it here though.

And i quite like my number 4 as it is ehen it works but on th ewhole i feel that 328 acorss the board was fine.

A real sniper doesnt get kills because his rifle fires twice as far he gets them cos its accurised and his field craft allows him to get in a good vantage point.

Point being a no4 enfield and a no4 enfield T and a bren will both kill at over 1k, the difference being its easier to hit with the T scope.

using the rifles must outrange smgs logic has a natural conclusion that brens and lmgs need to be around 500fps and have MED

I always liked petes idea of turning the hops of smgs and having everyhting at 328... hey presto your thompson no longer has the range of your tanaka and they are both around 350.





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Posted : 10/07/2009 12:27 pm
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using the rifles must outrange smgs logic has a natural conclusion that brens and lmgs need to be around 500fps and have MED

Which goes to show this is nothing to do with authenticity or sniper shit - just airsoft safety rules, which was my point.


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 12:31 pm
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Yeah but i think Rich also has a point that its a bit crap that everyone had a pistol which *looks* wrong as much as everyone having an mp44.

It would be interesting to see how a 328 across the board battle would go that relied on the ammo limits to constrain gameplay and still encompassed a lot of rifles... cant see either of us risking that one though.

Its something evo and i have deabted for ages.

We were thinking an amazing invention woudl be a rifle with a default setting (gas regulated ) of 328fps, by holding in a button on the stock you could allow the cylinder to hold more gas for hi power shots.

So snap shots and close up you'd be on low power but for shots you had to think about you coudl crank it up but you woudlnt have to remeber to reset it lower as taking you hand off releases the valve.

pipe dream but a great solution.





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Posted : 10/07/2009 12:42 pm
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Anyway... guys, this moving date thing doesn't seem to be working for you. 5 guys already can't make the new date!

Good job we didn't have Oosterbeek then, we'd have had the same problem!

Is that weekend cursed?


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 3:06 pm
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Early days, but yes, winners and losers - by rights there should be more winners. We can but try.


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 4:01 pm
 Yith
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Indeed... tis very early days yet!


 
Posted : 10/07/2009 4:07 pm
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Nice thing is, Dalby's lot should be able to make this one, so we're expecting a few reenactor bookings.

Wladek PMd me to say he couldn't get their because their designated driver is busy. :slap:

Can't they cadge a lift with someone? It's why I started the lift thread..... Christ, one of them could learn to drive by the end of Sept! ;)




 
Posted : 10/07/2009 10:24 pm
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