Information is key Gadge, just need to know what can/can't be worn and then there are no issues.
Fair play matt
It would never have occurred to me that somebody would want to do USMC for NWE raid but i see your point.
However it similarly doesn't say 'please dont come as a 'desert rat' or Africa korps ' trooper either as i thought the nature of the game spoke for itself.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
I have no problem with restrictions on kit, based on the event - for that reason I won't be going to the Hohenstaufen days.
If the event is a 'themed' event, and the organisers go to the trouble of creating scenarios for this theme, then fine - it's what I thought I was signing up to anyway. If the restriction had been Brit commandos, I wouldn't qualify and I wouldn't have batted an eyelid.
I don't think you can really compare CiA to a reenactment society either; there's no rank structure, everyone (just about) plays as a different unit and the stitch counting is kept to a minimum. In my experience here, everyone has their own standards which they conform to for kit, and rarely project those standards on to others.
yet again my point is missed...sometimes i do wonder....
And Yith, I put down marine kit just because I had just bought it and wanted to wear it, without guidelines of what can/cant be worn I didnt know any different, nothing to do with me being stubborn, I have already mentioned I'll now be in my Big red1 gear, so no further issue....
*put to bed*
Fair enough! We'll have to arrange to all turn up to an open day in far east kit sometime during the summer...
yet again my point is missed...sometimes i do wonder....
Perhaps you're not making it clear enough?
Just think of how many people did actually go out and buy Brit kit for Arnhem to support that event. I have that kit now for any future events that is Brit only....
I dont think the issue here is me being stubborn and wearing what I want to which is what Yith seems to has drawn assumption on, just need to be let know from the get-go.
Guess I am guilty of being a Geardo on this, having too much stuff to pick and chose from!
yet again my point is missed...sometimes i do wonder....
Completely missed it appears as I thought we'd dealt with everything.
Our point is that is someone only had USMC far east kit then we'd probably say "fair enough its all you have so go for it!" But when that person also has other kit that is more suitable then it'd be nice for them to use the more suitable kit...
I thought that would address your issues completely?
Just think of how many people did actually go out and buy Brit kit for Arnhem to support that event. I have that kit now for any future events that is Brit only....
I dont think the issue here is me being stubborn and wearing what I want to which is what Yith seems to has drawn assumption on, just need to be let know from the get-go.
Guess I am guilty of being a Geardo on this, having too much stuff to pick and chose from!
Understood!
We all like to use our new bits of kit...
Mine response was more about that most people will be wearing either ETO Yank or Brit kit. I'm not sure if camo would be the best option for what is essentially an 'urban' environment. IMHO I would rather be part of a group of people who look the same or similar.
Having said that, I don't mind, I'm borrowing Kraut kit for this. Whatever makes you more visible!
As for the actual history, I don't give a damn, but the generally accepted story is that the USMC fought in the Pacific (against a vastly different enemy to the ETO!). There may have been Marines attached to the Navy vessels that landed at Normandy and they may have fought in Europe but the general rule when putting impressions together is that you should try and go for the 'standardised' look and not a 'specialised' look.
In other words as an example, just because you've seen one WW2 photo of a guy with a pack of cigarettes tucked into his helmet net, doesn't mean you should include it in your impression because it wasn't what people 'in general' did.
Flibble's camo is very similar to the USMC stuff (or is it identical Rick?) and he does 2nd Armoured (or summit) in Europe. As someone else said, it was phased out and although I'm not sure of the exact reason why, the oft cited reason is that there was confusion and blue-on-blue because it looked Kraut.
Right, I want to have the last words
Lets shut up now! Don't know whether you wanna delete the posts back to whenever!
do you want me to be completely frank and put in bold red letters
I think this is a very positive discussion, webby.
At least, there won't be any confusion about themed events in the future.
Flibble's camo is very similar to the USMC stuff (or is it identical Rick?) and he does 2nd Armoured (or summit) in Europe.
Think its the same, but the Marines had reversible versions with the Sand Camo on the other side.
Webby... I agree.... But I'm just wanting to address H3b's concerns.
Agreed, i've learnt for it, in future we'll make the desired sides more explicit in the brief.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
Whilst I was writing my post there were about a million replies! Zip, zip it, ziiiip, shhht, shh, zip, zi, zi, z, z, z, zip it!
In address to Heather's point, I think you've touched on it there Rich
Our point is that is someone only had USMC far east kit then we'd probably say "fair enough its all you have so go for it!" But when that person also has other kit that is more suitable then it'd be nice for them to use the more suitable kit...
What heather is saying, is that, if (like her) you only have 1 set of kit, or Kit that doesn't really bare any resemblance to the scenario, then I think I would personally be a bit P-o'd if I was excluded from being able to play because of it, not every1 lives at home with their parents earning a fair wage like me, so wouldnt be able to just go and spend X amount of money on kit just to be able to goto the event.
But like Yith said, you would make exceptions for people who really showed interest in going but couldnt afford the kit, I think the only exception in this case is because I have more US kit that Soldier of Fortune (Primarily because I have deprived them of most of it)
People have made important points in this topic, (probably the wrong place for it like) including you Heath
I think to be honest then we have to be clear in our brief and not assume some things are obvious
If we have to we can put a list of 'acceptable units' for each game in future.
And acceptable counts as kit as we already do.
At the mometn i feel CiA games (and i'm biased) are top nothc and i'mconstantly impressed by the standard of turnout and play.
I'd hate to see that slip becasue we were trying to fit someone in for whatever reason.
Arnhem proved it can be done and *everybody* made a brilliant effort.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
I didn't have suitable kit for Arnhem hence I went Dutch Resistance, which cost me a whopping
This threads getting Ghey .
Webby - of course you can wear any WWII kit to our events . You could turn up in a brown boiler suit and call it UK battledress under our advise in the threads .
Coz we know and love you we know you have kit more in keeping with the flavour of the event , hence the too many posts on this subject.
whether or not we go down the rather restrictive route of having acceptable units is something CiA will discuss and decide upon going forward, but as it rather breaks with our aim ot be inclusives to all airsofters keen to get into WWII makes it unlikley. We did it at Arnhem for good historical reasons and I think those who played there agreed with that approach .
I look forward ot seeing you at Wotan , whatever loadout you decide ot come in .