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(@connorsherlockholmes)
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Hi all,

I saw someone posted this photo in a Wehrmacht group on facebook of a man in the 12th SS Panzer Division, and I just wanted to find out what he is equiped with and dressed in top to bottom.

Thankyou,
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Topic starter Posted : 13/06/2014 10:07 pm
MartinR
(@martinr)
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Dot 44 jacket and trousers, low boots, gaiters, standard leather webbing, helmet with a breading strap over it.

44 pattern was supposed to be worn over the wool uniform and is quite a late war uniform pattern, while 12th SS did use it, they were notable primarily for their extensive use of Italian camo, especially in Normandy.

Cheers
Martin

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Posted : 14/06/2014 7:20 am
Steiner
(@steiner_1609088194)
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Hmm... looks like a reenactor to me. Breadbag strap is very much an early war thing.


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Posted : 14/06/2014 11:00 am
MartinR
(@martinr)
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Oh yes, he's obviously a re-enactor. I'm not even sure if he hasn't got modern boots on.

Cheers
Martin

"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" Helmuth von Moltke
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Posted : 14/06/2014 3:53 pm
Chomley-Warner
(@admin-infinity)
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Heh, I'm not so sure!
http://kapo-neu.deviantart.com/art/HitlerJugend-Photo-Coloring-402548195
http://www.2i.sk/f4d6a78d5e
Young Waffen-SS Grenadier of the 12. SS Panzer Division (Hitlerjugend) in Normandy (July, France) 1944

Original monochrome photo was used on the cover of a book entitled 'Blood and Honor'
http://www.epier.com/product.asp?1619339

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Posted : 14/06/2014 4:04 pm
(@rangereuan)
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Haha that's practically a famous photo! Definitely not a reenactor!

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Posted : 14/06/2014 10:09 pm
(@prideofengland)
Noble Member

Haha that's practically a famous photo! Definitely not a reenactor!

Yeah he's not fat enough

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Posted : 15/06/2014 12:27 am
(@bedsnherts)
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Well if he held his rifle like that in a re-enactment event, he'd be macerated.

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Posted : 15/06/2014 7:28 am
MartinR
(@martinr)
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Well blow me down with a feather

He's also got his non regulation eagle sewn on his jacket, but there are lots of pics of 12th SS Grenadiers with that on. I guess even in 1944 people liked bling.

Cheers
Martin

"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" Helmuth von Moltke
Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.

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Posted : 15/06/2014 8:35 am
Steiner
(@steiner_1609088194)
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Well if he held his rifle like that in a re-enactment event, he'd be macerated.

Exactly my thoughts, too! Well, I stand corrected - again! FYI, the dot 44 uniform was supposed to be worn over Feldgrau wools, rather than replace it.


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Posted : 15/06/2014 12:46 pm
(@connorsherlockholmes)
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So could just the dot 44 uniform be worn without the standard grey uniform underneath or does it depend? Thanks for the responses and help also!

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Topic starter Posted : 18/06/2014 11:01 pm
Poacher
(@poacher)
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It could be worn on its own or it could be mixed. Camo trousers with a wool tunic for example.

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Posted : 19/06/2014 6:03 am
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