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Guinness
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Hey guys, Guinness here-

I've noticed some traffic on this over on Arnies and I wanted to clear some things up. I have known about this for a little while but hesitated to bring it to light just yet before I did some more due diligence. As I had mentioned in GuzziHero's similar thread on the M14/M1 Garand kit, I hadn't posted this on Arnies because I wanted to see some product actually out there in the world. Well although that still is yet to be seen, I know that Richard has product coming soon if if not already received.

I spent a few hours speaking with him this evening about Garand kits, Thompson kits and other things that he can fabricate in his shop. I am very encouraged and excited to say the least, more on that in a bit.

What I wanted to talk about right now is the Thompson m1928 kit, as seen on (pg 5) of AirsoftNews.EU

http://airsoft-news.eu/news.php?40

Richard is offering what I think is an incredible deal right now on these. For $139 USD (which is what, like 2 pounds 50 for you guys right? :lol: ) You get a hard wood buttstock, vertical forward grip, pistol grip, and the flat horizontal M1A1 forward grip and metal Cutts compensator as well. The Finned barrel is an add on option and I forgot to get his price on that, my bad- I have email into him right now, if he comes back on chat before I hit the rack I'll get all that and update this. Also I want him to explain how the Cutts attaches to the standard M1A1 barrel on TM's or CYMA's

There is one catch however.....

Richard has asked me to be his 'agent' if you will on these- You see, He is a small business owner, very small. That is one reason we have heard rumors of production issues and the like. It's just him an a few others right now over there in the Philippines making these products.

He originally asked me to create a news thread over on Arnies about this like I did for the M1 Garand kit, However I wanted to get new pictures rather than steal AirsoftNews.EUs images. He does not have any right now, but new ones are on the way this week as soon as this run of the production samples are completed.

I told him tonight that based on what I had been hearing around the WWII Airsoft websites, that I could assure him that he would sell out quickly. I asked him specifically what kind of production run numbers he was capable of. He indicated that he currently has materials on hand for 20 sets of stocks and furniture and more readily available, and that his factory can produce 40 sets at a time.

However, he's not in a position to 'mass produce' or even produce on speculation at this time. In other words, he's only going to make what he has firm orders for. Production will likely always be 'small' but quality, attention to detail and personal service will be high.

That's where I come in.

I told him that maybe what needs to happen is someone to organize and gather orders of committed people for these. That way he can more accurately judge the demand, and also focus on the production of the products and not the 'sales' aspect of getting this going. I offered to be that person- I'm on all the 'cool' Airsoft sites anyway where information and misinformation has been going around, and since I really want to see WWII Airsoft become a viable successful thing, I have a somewhat vested interest in helping out where I can.

Understand that all I am doing is getting together folks that want to order these and funneling that on to Richard. The money transaction is between you and his PayPal account, I have nothing to do with that, also notice that there is no 'markup' or added spiff here- I'm just an order taker, question answerer, 'middle-man' if you will in place to help him get this off the ground. My job is to make sure he knows how many to build, for who, and where to send them- For you guys I will confirm your order and keep you updated as to when it will ship.

BTW, if it is offsides for this to be here or if this needs to be moved and posted elsewhere, please do-

Now, a couple of questions I'm sure will be asked:

-When? Contrary to what the AirsoftNews.eu item says, these will not be available this month. He is looking at first of the year, Jan/Feb. One, because the holidays are upon us, and two, he doesn't have any real orders yet.

-Correct Receiver? His comment initially was "We'll see what demand is" when I said 'Well brother, many folks are going to likely hold off until a correct receiver is available', he told me a top bolt receiver is pretty easy to build. I believe we could push that to be an important part of this, but understand that would also add time to the production as he is set right now to make wood kits and barrels to mate with existing M1A1 type receivers.

So, where does that leave us.

As I said, he wants any and all inquiries regarding the Thompson products to get to him through me- So if anyone is interested, you can PM me here or my personal, ckalvarez@gmail.com The more orders we gather together, the faster these will be available and the more 'power' if you will we will have to drive the process, meaning the correct receiver and finned barrel along with the wood as one whole kit.

I am pretty 'stoked' as we used to say in my surfer days :wink:

Pictures the second I receive them-

Slainte!



Lead, Follow, or get the %$@#!! outta the way!!

 
Posted : 06/12/2007 7:35 am
 Yith
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Interesting...

But he really does need to make the upper receiver or anyone buying this kit has not really got a perfect replica and it'll always need work. After all, a significant reason why people want an M1928 is so they can go for the "gangster" look, complete with drum mag. The M1A1 receiver is not designed to take a drum mag.

But don't listen to me as I've already got a complete M1928 kit and hence will not be putting an order in anyway.

All I actually want is the different M1928 selector switches... :) Could he make those? The M1A1 ones are wrong for an M1928. The old MM/CAW kit did not come with the alternate switches.

Whatever the case, well done to him so far and good luck.


 
Posted : 06/12/2007 9:52 am
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I'd be very interested in this, if only initially for the wood kit for the M1A1, and would probably look to convery completely later. £70 is also a very good price.

Tell him you've got one order already. :D


 
Posted : 06/12/2007 10:41 am
Rhysd2
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depending on how much extra the finned barrel is I'd be interested.




 
Posted : 06/12/2007 11:58 am
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I got a price. The added on finned barrel is 56 usd I belive. I got my preorder in, and he said itl be at my doorstep before christmas. So Im a happy camper

-Tobin


 
Posted : 06/12/2007 2:47 pm
webby
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I have just spoken to him about getting 1 cutts compensator for mine and he said it shouldnt be a problem!


 
Posted : 07/12/2007 8:54 am
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I got a price. The added on finned barrel is 56 usd I belive. I got my preorder in, and he said itl be at my doorstep before christmas. So Im a happy camper

-Tobin

At least that means ALL you have to do is re-work the reciever. I still think the denix M1928 would be a good starting point for it, even if all you do is use it as a pattern for a mould, then mill out the required holes.



 
Posted : 07/12/2007 8:33 pm
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Heres a picture of the final thing, and he said he shipped it already, so I cannot wait to recieve this kit. It looks Brilliant! Once I get it ill take a bunch of pictures to show all you guys. Im also gonna give the wood the "Guinness" effect.


 
Posted : 21/12/2007 6:21 pm
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The wood looks just fine as it is!

All looks very nice

(I'll stop being a broken record concerning the receiver... for now!)


 
Posted : 21/12/2007 6:38 pm
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Looks ace, spoke to Chris and he's getting back to me soon about UK shipping, so we'll see what the total damage will be.

Mike


 
Posted : 21/12/2007 6:40 pm
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I was considering ordering a full kit, however, I dont like the way the stock and pistol grip look. Im considering just going with the barrel and compensator now and pieceing the rest together by myself. Im waiting for them to release the m1928 reciever, should be interesting.


 
Posted : 22/12/2007 5:37 pm
Kavster
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You might have a point there, mate. The stock looks wrong.


 
Posted : 22/12/2007 8:05 pm
Gliderrider
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The wood is fine.

However the reciever.

Can it be filled out to give it the dimensions of the m1928, and a new cocking handle added in some way to the top?

And rear sight, can the triangular sight guard be replaced by something similar to the rectangular Lyman sights?

If its possible to do that, I might just be getting one in the new year.



 
Posted : 22/12/2007 8:30 pm
Kavster
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The wood looks great, it's the shape I think he's means.


 
Posted : 22/12/2007 9:02 pm
 Yith
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The stock looks close enough for me... its definitly not an M1A1 stock.

http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg29-e.htm


 
Posted : 22/12/2007 11:33 pm
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Yes the wood itself looks great, but the overall shape of the stock looks bad in my opinion. It looks short and fatter then the real steel. I would just prefer another brand of stock.


 
Posted : 23/12/2007 4:42 pm
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I finaly got it in the mail!!! I love it. Unlike the M1a1 Barrel, the barrel AZR included is solid as a rock. The foregrip feels great, and I must say this thing was very well made. Im still working on getting an appropriate upper reciever, but ill keep ya'll posted. Heres the pictures.

These pictures show how the barrel breaks apart.


 
Posted : 27/12/2007 6:24 am
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With the barrel, I know a setscrew holds the outside barrel on, they did not rib all the way up to the reciever, any explination there? The stock still looks off, maybe this should be pointed out to him? I understand that a kit cant always be 100% of the real steels detail sometimes and still be to the price, but this one seems fixable. The 1927's and 1928's, part of the buttplate also extends onto the top of the stock with a little lip, and the second screw is on the top.


 
Posted : 30/12/2007 10:33 pm
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