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Gadge
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Its Petes and its an inert repro.

You could easily put a smal cut down moscart launcher in the 'cup' that holds the bomb but would there be much point.

You'd ened up with a very heavy short range shotgun.

Evo and i discussed this the other day, best bet is a tight beam lazer tag type ir unit in a fake piat bomb any scenario vehicles or bunkers an be woired up to have an IR triggered 5grm charge on top.

Its how pheonix do their 'law attacks' and ok it doenst work every time but them thats just a 'miss' isnt it.

Problem with a PIAT as the shot was effectivley 'lobbed' (to a degree until the motor kicks in) you had to be practiced to be able to hit stuff easily.





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Posted : 11/01/2008 2:28 pm
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Yes lazer tag is the safest way and most reliable but I think it will still take some skill out of game play.
Judging speed over a distance if used against a vehicle for instance will always take skill with a projectile where as a light beam system its a hit.

I think that is one of the things that appeals about airsoft and paint ball over laser tag.

Just my thoughts on this. :wink:

PS if anyone is making one let me know please.


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Posted : 11/01/2008 2:43 pm
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agreed mate but in the days oh h&s probably the best recourse.

edit: although at the airsoft 'pointblank range of 50m hitting an armoured vehicle even moving with a piat is a pretty much a certainty, they are in no way as innacurate as folklore makes out. At close ranges like we play at i.e. <50m they are ideal.





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Posted : 11/01/2008 2:45 pm
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Is it worth me making one and a faust patrone with the shells held in dummy bombs so more can be carried as per real for use against soft targets?

Just need to know if it is worthwhile or not and would be acceptable in game. The range might be 30 yds so it is in scale to rifle rounds range.


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Posted : 11/01/2008 2:48 pm
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agreed mate but in the days oh h&s probably the best recourse.

I would say you also need some limit on the number of trigger presses on the weapon as carrying 10 piat shells in the field may be a piss take.

So a limit of 4 or 5 before going back to the supply depot and use of an unlock key etc. :idea:


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Posted : 11/01/2008 2:50 pm
Gadge
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Yeah totally.

Six shots max, three ideally for game balance. maybe a minute time delay circuit as well so yo cant just keep pulling the trigger.

I just thought perhaps you could have the 'vehicle/bunker' sensor on a slowly rotating mount so that you only got a hit 66 per cetn of the time? gives the vehicle a random chacen of it 'not penetrating or missing'

I'm not conviced you'll get any benefits out of a piat moscart, maybe for urban game sbut in woodland not much use





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Posted : 11/01/2008 2:53 pm
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I know what you mean but I love the whistle effect a nerf will give.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnFiW1LYtts


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Posted : 11/01/2008 2:55 pm
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Piats go 'kerchunk' thats about all you hear.





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Posted : 11/01/2008 2:57 pm
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Yeah totally.

Six shots max, three ideally for game balance. maybe a minute time delay circuit as well so yo cant just keep pulling the trigger.

i've been considering this, and working out how to set it up so you need to unload and reload to be able to fire again. Not strictly realistic having to unload it, but better than just having a trigger with a timer attached.

plus as regards accuracy, you can focus the beam so you'd need to be spot on, rather than just a blanket beam that'll hit regardless.

I'm also thinking of making up some generic lasertag target boxes that can be used to trigger charges, so they could be put on any vehicle/bunker/atillery piece etc.


 
Posted : 11/01/2008 3:06 pm
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Sounds good let me know how you go on if I have time later in the year I may copy what ever you come up with if that is ok.

If you need any help with some of it let me know I may have some ideas.

As I said a key located back at a depot would be my answer to the ammo limit in part, also a 5 or 6 shot limit between a trip back to the key.
A 1 metre kill zone at about 50 metres maybe.

Also game play to first locate the key or the weapon.


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Posted : 11/01/2008 7:43 pm
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Sounds good let me know how you go on if I have time later in the year I may copy what ever you come up with if that is ok.

yep, no problem, it makes sense for them all to work on the same circuit/wavelength so that they're all interchangeable. i'll do some research on circuits and put them up on here when i find some decent ones.

I've made lasertag guns for sci-fi roleplayers in the past, just not for years though!


 
Posted : 11/01/2008 7:56 pm
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Great as making the body of these things in metal would be a piece of cake.
Like this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgSpxOf5 ... re=related


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Posted : 12/01/2008 9:47 am
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Hi,

Interested in your PIAT posts. A few years back I made up some PIAT rounds that would fire tennis balls. I used bird scarers to fire the balls up to a range of about 30 metres or so. These scarers are available from hardware shops and give a satisfying CRACK! I have not measured it but the kenetic energy cannot be more than a bb fired from an airsoft, and it does NOT harm or injure anone if they happen to get in the way. I tried it out on myself! I used to use it at public displays and private battles - it knocked out a German halftrack and I even went up against a Panzer 111! I occasionally let 'old sweats' have a go at regimental reunions - firing at a Tiger tank - they love it! The photographs below should explain all. Would be interested in your comments.


 
Posted : 26/01/2008 1:30 pm
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