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neillblume
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here is mine.
a few things missing: waterbottle and gas mask canister which i have but the strap broke not sure how to upload piccies....so
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http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forum ... t&id=39665

http://www.airsoftcommunity.co.uk/forum ... t&id=39666




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Posted : 17/02/2007 7:52 pm
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Cuff title is a litle too high and to be honest isnt normally worn on the outer camo uniform.

Normaly the only stuff on a camo uniform is tactical rank insignia and naional emblem.

Cuff titlle shoul d be about two inches up from the sleeve





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Posted : 18/02/2007 4:16 am
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I disagree Cuff titles were often worn at different heights. Also the ss were normally pretty cavalier about insignia placement, the information I found suggests that "cuff titles should be worn approx 15 - 16 cm above the edge of the sleeve" ( http://www.atthefront.com being one source) also in photos below notice the cuff titles are half way between the sleeve and the elbow. Mine may be a little high i grant you but the title should be midway between the sleeve and the elbow

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I kind of agree about the camo and insignia on smocks and wind jackets but this is not a smock (on which it is quite rare to find insignia of any kind) it is a full tunic and photos of full camo tunics are hard to find as they were not a standard issue item. There is some evidence to suggest that although insignia were not officially authorised to be worn on camo the soldiers did it anyway, much as enlisted men used to often buy officer grade sleeve eagles.. This became more common as the menreturned from the eastern front where the uniform requirements were relaxed because of the lack of warm clothing so soldiers began to use whatever they could find. this relaxed attitude pervaded when these men came back to the west, the only time they were required to wear the full and proper uniform was on parade or to go on leave. I did see a piccy of one some where but i cant actually find it atm....
quote from a source

"During the war, numerous non-standard uniform and field gear items were made from camouflage material by unit or private tailors. One of the more common garments seen in original photos are camo tunics. These appear to have been favored by many senior NCO's and especially SS officers."




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Posted : 18/02/2007 4:58 am
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fair play

thnik you're wearing pea pattern national eagle and tactical post 43 rank insignia is allyou need





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Posted : 18/02/2007 5:21 pm
neillblume
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spoken like a gentleman sir! I always thought the pea pattern was tooo much like flecktarn. and of course Oak A is really useful in an urban environment..... perhaps i'll have to get some feldgrau.... just in case..




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Posted : 18/02/2007 5:41 pm
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This is intended as info and not a critique of your kit.
Bling is rare on camo field uniforms which were not an issue item. Why spend money on camo to destroy its effect by covering it with ribbons and sparkle. You will see some officers in camo with all kinds of stuff on camo tunics but not often the enlisted ranks, you wont see enlisted ranks in many camo tunics at all. You would not parade in camo tunics or trousers, and the chance of loosing badges and rewards in action all adds up to a very limited supply of images to support thier use.
I dont think your cuff title is far off position wise, though again rare on camo kit.


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Posted : 19/02/2007 12:22 am
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thanks for that - I am aware of this. I did find a picture of a soldier with a camo tunic and a cuff band, which is why I went for one, and have subsequently lost it in cyberspace. I know what you mean about bling but this is airsoft its supposed to be fun. :lol: Its the shoulder boards that worry me from a camo point of view. They are very bright and noticeable. and i'll probably remove the iron cross before battle commences. idid find this link but its a store.... http://www.waffen-ss.no/German-Uniforms ... ene-SS.htm




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Posted : 19/02/2007 8:08 am
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God your all a miserable bunch of stitch nazis aren't you ? :wink:

Neil, the load out is fantastic mate, & the look on your face is definately "don't fuck with the SS". Top marks , I look forward to seeing you at Arnhem !


 
Posted : 19/02/2007 10:59 am
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Just to be a bit more diplomatic :wink:

If someone is posted pics of their kit there are saying
'WW2 airsofting is great, I am so fired up have a look at what I've been up to' not
'I am a wannabe re-enactor, pick my loadout to bits, wind me up and make me look stupid'

There is nothing more likely to make you feel down when you should be feeling up than a bit of one-upmanship, no matter how well intentioned.

Different matter if the question is asked, for example, 'here is my loadout - I'm not sure whether to use shoulder boards with this kit, what do you guys think?

To personalise this a little, a couple of years ago my son put together a damn fine US Marine loadout (on pocket money I might add) - posted a pic on ASCUK only to have someone have a poke. He didn't go back on the forum for ages.

I don't want this to happen on our forum, everyone MUST be felt welcome, NO harshwords or gain-saying. If soemone wants advice they will ask for it, otherwise applaud them for making the effort to be different and helping to build a thriving and expanding WW2 airsoft community.


 
Posted : 19/02/2007 12:12 pm
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Just to be a bit more diplomatic :wink:

If someone is posted pics of their kit there are saying
'WW2 airsofting is great, I am so fired up have a look at what I've been up to' not
'I am a wannabe re-enactor, pick my loadout to bits, wind me up and make me look stupid'

There is nothing more likely to make you feel down when you should be feeling up than a bit of one-upmanship, no matter how well intentioned.

Different matter if the question is asked, for example, 'here is my loadout - I'm not sure whether to use shoulder boards with this kit, what do you guys think?

To personalise this a little, a couple of years ago my son put together a damn fine US Marine loadout (on pocket money I might add) - posted a pic on ASCUK only to have someone have a poke. He didn't go back on the forum for ages.

I don't want this to happen on our forum, everyone MUST be felt welcome, NO harshwords or gain-saying. If soemone wants advice they will ask for it, otherwise applaud them for making the effort to be different and helping to build a thriving and expanding WW2 airsoft community.

I totally agree, when I found this forum it came across as inclusive and uncritical it seemed that the key thing was the effort rather than the accuracy of the end product, some of the stitch counting criticism that has been in evidence lately would definitely have put me off.




 
Posted : 19/02/2007 12:27 pm
neillblume
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thanks mate
I just wanted an outfit that was practical camo wise, was different, and looked good! (hence the 'unauthorised' bling!) If I wanted to count stitches i would have joined a historical re enactment society! but i do enjoy the comments and discussion. i am really looking forward to arnhem I've never done anything like that before - should be excellent!




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Posted : 19/02/2007 12:50 pm
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Not my intetnion to be stich counter sorry if it came across like that, i was just offering what i thought was helpful comments.

I agree inclusive, fun and easy is the way forwards, so far everybodies kit look g great anyway im impressed





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Posted : 19/02/2007 12:51 pm
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My general comments were not directed at anyone in particular and certainly no apologies are necessary from anyone.

Let's face it, everyone is a geardo (and indeed secret stich-counter) to some extent or another - I personally hate to have it 'wrong'. Yesterday I was trotting about in an Belgian Dension with US M43 trousers, post-war German gaitors, post-war BD blouse and while it was great I still knew that it won't be long before I have 'proper' Brit kit - and I have been seeking advice from everyone, not least you Gadge (who helped me get the '38 webbing together).

Anyhoo, talking about cuff titles, mine has shredded to bits - it seems to catch on some part of my kit and looks like it's seen a lot of battle action (which is why I shall leave it as it is!!)


 
Posted : 19/02/2007 1:25 pm
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Good news John! Hope you can get it time for the Arnhem game - could do with a few more on the winning side :wink:


 
Posted : 21/02/2007 10:27 am
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Incomplete, complete, lookey-likey are all good!

And yes, the young GI has been converted (slightly grudgingly as he can't use his new CA M16 VN!) and will be wearing Brit kit for Arnhem.


 
Posted : 21/02/2007 10:55 am
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Go ahead John...

It'll be great to see you there!


 
Posted : 21/02/2007 11:46 am
neillblume
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whats the minimum age limit btw




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Posted : 21/02/2007 11:48 am
 Yith
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whats the minimum age limit btw

From Phoenix's forums:

How old do I have to be?
16 years and over at the Urban site. If under 18 you will require a responsible adult to sign a form. If you are younger than this our Woodland site welcomes 12 year olds and over


 
Posted : 21/02/2007 11:58 am
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Confirming 16 years old.


 
Posted : 21/02/2007 12:43 pm
neillblume
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shame really my boy is 12 and has already been softing for a year! he is really gutted he cant go!
perhaps we can do a ww2 woodland sometime.....




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Posted : 21/02/2007 1:05 pm
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