....Exactly the case with the Germans. What chance did they have with that idiot egotist Hitler cocking up every move.
Poor old Hitler, the surviving prussian elite skillfully managed to blame him for every failure of the wehrmacht, whilst simultaneously taking the credit for all its achievements.
For a different view and an interesting read try "Barbarossa" by Alan Clarke.
the question is, why they didnt develope winter warfare eqiupment, russia or no russia ?
They did.
they didnt untill the winter had already set in.
When you create a fighting force, you predict certain events that can happen accross the world so you train said army to fight in those warzones. Look at norway to begin with...
So what was hitler and his commanders thinking ? that warfare only happened between april and october ? Why didnt they have winter eqiupment for norway or any of conflict that involved snow. Surely the germans would of looked at the winter war between the Finns and russians and would of learned a few lessons there ?
Was hitlers concerns not with the soldiers morale ? was he more concerned with how many men he can get killed for the objective instead of minimising collateral damage ?
I doubt that cost has a factor aswell as germany was and its peak of wartime production at that time ..
Freiheit ist nicht frei
Alle sieben Sekunden stirbt ein deutscher Soldat ,,,,,,,stalingrad massengrab
Was hitlers concerns not with the soldiers morale ?
No, I don't think it was, at least not how we or the army thought of it. As far as he was concerned their morale would be improved by at the very least standing to the last man if pushing forward at all costs to certain death wasn't an option. Commanders frequently returned and described the plight but it fell on largely deaf (or impotent) ears. I'm sure there are plenty of quotes to support this but Hitler thought a soldier's sacrifice was an honour to Germany - he didn't give a shit, he was an idealist not a realist. Quite why the German forces pushed against all odds is a testimony to the professionalism, honour and obedience of the fighting man. Same goes for any country's forces really, armies do the politician's bidding.
I doubt that cost has a factor aswell as germany was and its peak of wartime production at that time ..
Huh? Germany was desperately short of cash and materiel because they were at a peak of wartime production. Everything was at a premium apart from lives. Hitler's interference with armour production meant plans and plants were switched one way then the other, with priorities flipping from one part of the world to another and practicality being disregarded over tactical ambition.
germany production was at its peak, it had alot of foreign materials coming in, and production was not only limited to germany. The problem was getting the eqiupment to there troops, germany probably had one of the worst logistic supply system in any modern army of the time due to concentrating on other ideals of the german war machine.
Freiheit ist nicht frei
Alle sieben Sekunden stirbt ein deutscher Soldat ,,,,,,,stalingrad massengrab
Its a question of priorities vs resources. Right now Brown is promising cash as a priority to helicopters (some time in the future 
) while depriving other areas of the forces of equivalent cash. In other words, political controllers try to fulfil immediate needs at the expense of long term planning. Sometimes there is no other way than be reactive of course - having to cope with what is in front of you - and given Hitler's impulsiveness it is very hard to see how anything could be perfect. How he got so far in distance and in conquest in such a short time is astonishing really, given what he had to start with.
Britain gave themselves the luxury of time and made sure they were prepared for an invasion and got it right. Hitler didn't give himself or his troops much of a chance of planning ahead and it told in the end.
....Exactly the case with the Germans. What chance did they have with that idiot egotist Hitler cocking up every move.
Poor old Hitler, the surviving prussian elite skillfully managed to blame him for every failure of the wehrmacht, whilst simultaneously taking the credit for all its achievements.
For a different view and an interesting read try "Barbarossa" by Alan Clarke.
Very definately Baz, dumping all the failings at the foot of AH is a cop out which too many people resort to. The man was a meddler who did hamper the German war effort to some degree, but many other factors also have to be considered.
I don't think it's a cop-out at all. The Prussians have been efficiently chopping up their enemies since 1640 
. The combination of the Prussian military strategies of boldness, self sacrifice, technology and maneuver were the things that enabled the early German successes of the war.
It was Hitler alone who decided that military and political strategy should be one and the same.
It was Hitler alone who decided that military and political strategy should be one and the same.
Not really Hitler alone. That's one of the standard principles of Fascism.
and who led Germany down that road?
careful, this is the point where it goes off topic , delving into NSDAP history can lead to a lengthy debate which isnt relevant to the issue of winter clothing 
Freiheit ist nicht frei
Alle sieben Sekunden stirbt ein deutscher Soldat ,,,,,,,stalingrad massengrab
This thread makes a new approach to Godwins Law. Normally you start a discussion and at some point someone makes a comparison with Hitler. In this case we started with Hitler and ended up with modern analogies. Is this a case of "Reverse Godwins Law"?
If you look at German military sucesses up to June 41 you can see why their belief about their superiority was well founded . Took Denmakr in one day , France / Belgium in a few weeks and this was fighting against Britain which was considered a worthyt opponent. Norway too fell quickly, and after the Finns had obliterated the Russin inthe Winter War with no armour or air force. the Germans were convinced that Stalin and the Red Army would collapse in equally a short a period. The Russian armour was wildy inferior to the Germans, ( T34 came as a huge shock) and most of the Russian Airforce was wiped out in the first week . So on June 21st 1941 the thought of reaching Moscow in a few months was quite realistic , much the same as reaching Kuwait City in a few short weeks in Gulf War I.
The reality was that the russian were more fightened of Stalin than the Germans , and his ruthlessness with scorched earth and sacrificing huge numbers of men even took the gwermans by surprise .
Norway too fell quickly, and after the Finns had obliterated the Russin inthe Winter War with no armour or air force. the Germans were convinced that Stalin and the Red Army would collapse in equally a short a period.
Hey, the Finns had planes, funky bi-planes. Well at least I was flying them on IL-2 last night.