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imp1864
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As the title says, Who used splinter B camo. I have researched and so far its heer, but did the SS use it as well?



 
Posted : 15/04/2008 6:49 pm
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Heer wore splinter A zeltbahns - this dates from 1931 , Luftwaffe splinter b, waffen SS camouflage was tested at the end of 1937 and in june 1938 a patent was awarded by the reich Patent Office for the reversible helmet cover, pullover smock and a face mask.

SS camoflage patterns were designed by Professor Otto Schick, there are quiet a few versions :wink:


 
Posted : 15/04/2008 8:04 pm
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Yeah, as far as I know Splittertarn 39(?) was used only by the Luftwaffe for later pattern jump smocks and combat smocks - having said that I think mine is '31.


 
Posted : 16/04/2008 8:16 am
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I've just read a forum from a couple of years back with a load of guys having absolute fits over FJ jump smock froms Barry and Keith being made of Splinter A. I've just had one of these from Barry and I can't really tell if it's A or B. I've looked at both patterns and frankly I'm hard pressed to tell the difference. So my questions are:
Are Barry's new smocks still Splinter A?
Should I really give a s**t either way?


 
Posted : 16/04/2008 6:13 pm
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Barry's smocks are splinter B and apparently some of them best out there, at least for the money. I still need to get myself one.


 
Posted : 16/04/2008 10:50 pm
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Shweet. I'll take your word for it as I still can't tell the diff.

Erm... what are all these pockets, poppers and buttons for on my jump smock??

OK so I get that with a type 3 you have PRYM poppers to fasten the smock around your calves when you jump in order to avoid a Marilyn Monroe-type incident but there's 5 on each leg - 3 M2F. I've also got what looks like a sewn-in pistol holster, buttoned side vents and more zips than a punk rocker's grundies.


 
Posted : 17/04/2008 12:20 pm
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First of all mate, if you're in Scotland, whereabouts and where do you play? Myself and WhosWill? are in the 'burgh, and we play at The Hill occasionally (when there's not a CiA game in the offing). Also, I play luftwaffe and I'm happy to help you sort your kit out.

Splittertarn '31 is commonly known as Splinter A, they are one in the same thing. As regards the smock, it really depends on the unit - smocks were mostly worn by SS units (in different camos), but splitter and sumpfmuster smocks were used by the Army and luftwaffe. I'll be putting my Luftwaffe Field Division pics up tonight so keep an eye out for them.


 
Posted : 25/04/2008 4:47 pm
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This site gives an overview of camo's from all over the world. It's not the definitive answer but it's a good starting point.

http://www.kamouflage.net/camouflage/00136/en_index.php


 
Posted : 25/04/2008 6:19 pm
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John, it's a general rule of thumb that the longer the war went on, the more prevalent short boots became. I have seen Heer, Waffen SS and Luftwaffe forces with long boots, and also all with short boots and gaiters (blue for LW, green for the others).



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Posted : 25/04/2008 8:35 pm
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Boots, did the Luftwaffe Splintertarn guys wear boots with gators instead of the usual jack boots?

Depending on when and where you want to represent you have 3 choices. 1st pattern jump boots known as side lace boots, the reason is they lace....you get the idea. Early war to Crete, a tiny number used later. They are usually black.
2nd pattern boots are a high leg leather soled front laced [often with 12 lace holes, though not always]. They were delivered in raw un-dyed leather. Mid to late war, Crete to fall of Berlin, some ended up black, some half way.
3rd option is low boots and gaitors. Late war only, many of the guys wearing these would not be jump qualified. There was neither fuel, time or airframes to spend on jump training. Some Normandy, more in Ardennes, be selective.
Dont be drawn into the 'It must be blue gaitors for Lufty' story. You dont see them [rather you cant be sure they are blue] off the parade ground. I only have one source for my opinion here but he is still with us and has 3 tank distruction badges and an Iron cross. Blue bread bags are almost certainly not what you would see on a combat paratrooper. Blue water bottle covers are post war, dont go there at all.


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Posted : 25/04/2008 8:52 pm
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I'll get those pics up tomorrow, when I'm not pissed... :D


 
Posted : 25/04/2008 11:14 pm
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The Fallschirmjager reenactors hate Splinter A with a passion and realy belittle anyone using a Splinter A jump smock-even worse apparently is someone using one of the aged Sturm ones of which i used to own and thought the were pretty good to be honest!!!


 
Posted : 26/04/2008 4:44 pm
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