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What airsoft gun to get for a beginner?

 
dadio
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i guess first you need to think of what nation you want to portray .
for English an AGM sten mk2
for German an AGM or SRC mp40
for American an M1A1 Thompson , there are several and all reliable guns
for Russian a PPS41
all of these are smg's and ideal for a first gun , the Russian PPS41 is however quite dear in comparison.
uniform wise just get the basic infantry uniform as that will see most use , then add stuff to it to change it to airborne or other branches later.
bolt action rifles are very cool and the ideal weapon (carried by nearly everybody in the war) but for a first gun and if you are new to airsoft then you'l have more fun with a sub machine gun .

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
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Topic starter Posted : 09/02/2014 11:01 am
Sgt.Heide
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Welcome to the forum. If you use the "search" function, you'll find this question has been asked (and answered) many times in the past.



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Posted : 09/02/2014 11:07 am
MartinR
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Hello and welcome,

as Sgt Heide says, the question has been asked many times before, however....

I would recommend an SMG, rather than a bolt action rifle or a support weapon to start with. Much more useful for normal airsoft if you decide the WWw2 scene isn't for you, and somewhat cheaper and easier to obtain too. While you can go for a specific gun to go with a specific uniform, most games just specify 'a ww2 weapon', so any old SMG will do. My first was a Thompson, which was used by everyone, even the Russians and Germans. If you do have a hankering for a particular nationality, then go with Dadios advice above.

An alternative is a wood stocked M14, which looks like a rifle and can be used as a stand-in for lots of nations rifles (sort of US, German G43, Sov SVT-40) and is really just a fabulous gun all round. Also good for normal airsoft,and is very easy to convert into a looks-like G43 and SVT-40, with minimal work. I have used my M14 at more games than anything else.

Cheers
Martin

"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" Helmuth von Moltke
Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.

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Posted : 09/02/2014 2:06 pm
dadio
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the sten or mp40 are the choice , AGM make both at reasonable cost , there are a few sten's going for £100 on land warrior i believe ,usually around £150 , oddly the mp40 a far more detailed and complex gun is usually about £100 and overseas as low as £75 , so if you want a sten then now's a good time .

armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well





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Topic starter Posted : 09/02/2014 4:36 pm
MI-GO-A-GO-GO
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Ohh it feels so retro answering this post :D

anyhoo i agree with all the above but i would say that fps wise stens and Mp40s tend to be safe for all sites.

However if you want a gun that is epic on semi auto and has a good accuracy M14s whilst not true ww2 are epic
either AGM or Cyma for the win. on the negative side like thompsons they can fire hot 360+
I have a cyma socom which I frequently lone out at ww2 games
And a AGM full length m14 which has one of warrens kits on to make a garand.


armoury. Sten lanchesteralike thompson m1a1 thompson 1928 Garand (m14 S&S) 1911 Browning HP Tanaka M10 stg 44 mp40 x 2 tanaka k98 MG42 (AK IN PLASTIC BODY) MG34 (ak in plastic body as well) Luger broom handle latex bayonet latex E-tool

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Posted : 09/02/2014 6:28 pm
 Yith
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Moved to the correct forum.

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Posted : 10/02/2014 2:01 pm
CHThree
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SMGs are all well and good, but I have reservations about recommending them to every newcomer to the scene as the best first buy. The weren't the most common weapons on a ww2 battlefield, the bolt action rifle was, I think most people would do well to get used to a game or two with one early on before they get to that "can't compete unless I gave 600 RPM" mindset, so that's what I recommend, but I know that's not everyone's bag. :)

M14s are generally acceptable under counts as rules, but Garands are readily available, ready made, now. They have M14 internal's, just as good, you can get one of those if you want a semi auto rifle. You can get a kit to convert an M14 to a Garand from shoot and scoot but you are doing WW2 so why not get a perid correct gun from the off? You will want a Garand eventually (you know you will) so why not get S&S to make it for you or you can buy a new ICS, G&G?



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Posted : 10/02/2014 9:23 pm
Steiner
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The first question you need to ask yourself is what impression you wish to portray. Pointless you getting a Thompson (say) if you're going to go German.

The impression dictates the weapon.


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Posted : 10/02/2014 10:27 pm
MartinR
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Well, the other thing to do is go to some games and borrow some kit to try out first prior to laying out a ton of dosh. Josh (Gunman) loans out uniforms and rents guns.

Although thread title is 'what gun', the OP is 'actually what do I do to get started'.

If you want to do it 'properly' then you need a basic uniform and an appropriate weapon to go with it. Appropriate being something which shoots at less than 350 fps and looks right for the particular impression.

Although other people will disagree, if you have never,ever done airsoft before, I would strongly recommend going to a/some open day games at a local airsoft site to get a feel for how it all works. You can then compare and contrast in a more informed way with ww2 airsoft. This is an expensive, time and storage consuming hobby and there is no point in blowing a ton of dosh on something which doesn't work for you.

Cheers
Martin

"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" Helmuth von Moltke
Toys: AGM MP40, Cyma M1A1, TM M14/G43/SVT40, TM VSR/K98, SnS No. 4, ASG Sten, Ppsh.

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Posted : 11/02/2014 8:56 am
BootedFeet
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I'm fairly inexperienced in terms of WW2 Airsoft but speaking from experience in regular airsoft, and to echo those who advised my first WWW weapon, I personally reccomend an SMG specific to your impression (Sten/MP40/Thompson/PPSh).The authentic weapon is indeed a rifle, which i was keen to start with, but use of one often requires a pistol as well for short range, which means more dough. If you decide that you hate WW2 you will also get more use out of an SMG in regular airsoft. In particular I'd avoid the garand unless you are dead set on American. Unfamiliarity with 8mm weapons like the garand mean that a lot of regular sites place heavy restrictions on the garand and other 8mm guns.

Though I also support MartinR's statement above, if you can get to a game people will often lend you kit, Gunman games provide kit to anyone without thier own, so you can really try before you buy.

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Posted : 11/02/2014 10:11 am
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Aren't new garands 6mm though? That shouldn't present a problem with using it at open days. If you stick below 350fps then there is no need for a pistol up close, especially if you have a semi auto rifle.

I'd say borrow or rent to give WW2 a go first before buying a weapon or even any kit unless you're sure what impression you want to do. Most people will let you have a look at their gun if you ask so you can get a feel for many types without having to buy.That way you can decide if you like it before spending too much. It also means you have a basis for deciding what look you want to go for and what weapon you want to use rather than buying and then changing your mind later.

Martin's advice about trying an open day first if you've never done airsoft before is also a good idea. Give you a feel for the game and something to compare the different feel of WW2. Just try not to get hooked and spend all your money on that modern rubbish.

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Posted : 11/02/2014 12:57 pm
Universal Gunner
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Yes the ICS Garand is 6mm and despite a few initial problems caused by incompetent work on the part of the supplier mine is proving a lot of fun and so far very reliable in the field. A great compromise between an SMG and a 10 round bolt action. Love mine, wish I could fit the internals into a Lee Enfield.

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Posted : 11/02/2014 4:04 pm
BootedFeet
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My mistake, for some reason I thought the garand was only available in 8mm, standard 6mm BBs make it seem far more viable.

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Posted : 11/02/2014 4:09 pm
Russe11
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The Sten is a very cheap option at the moment. It's a very nice gun with a high rate of fire and good accuracy. Nice steel construction too.
http://www.landwarriorairsoft.com/acata ... vqn6mJ_u0Q
The downside is that it is full auto only and has no safety.
Mags for the ASG Sten and MP40 are interchangable but ASG only makes 50 round mags. King Arms makes 110 round mags (which hold closer to 140 rounds) but they are a bit troublesome and may need some modification to fit properly.

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Posted : 11/02/2014 10:53 pm
Hurrah
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I know I am late to this thread, but I started with an MP-40 and resistance kit (quasi 30's civilian), it covered me while I built up my other kit, you could do the same with a sten no problem.

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