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Steiner
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...Sturmbannfuhrer Chomely-Warner, step forward! What did you make them from, and what about the "holes" ?



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Posted : 29/09/2008 10:24 pm
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Are you talking about the 'straps' used with the M36 tunic?


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Posted : 29/09/2008 10:50 pm
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Um... the straps that the belt hooks should hook into, inside the jacket, that go over the shoulder - rather than the 3 inch bits of cloth that are just sewn onto the lining of most jackets.



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Posted : 29/09/2008 10:59 pm
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Andy you can buy the internal Tunic belt hook suspenders.

I'm just trying to remember where from - I'm sure Poacher would know a source, if I can't remember lol

EDIT UPDATE:-

Feldbluse 1933-45 book - page 40 - pic and description of internal hook suspenders (Although you've prolly seen it)
Does your Tunic have the internal lining arrangement for the suspenders?

Found these - http://www.hessenantique.com/Internal_T ... hape01.htm $25.00


 
Posted : 30/09/2008 6:56 am
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Ah, cool beans. Monsieur Le Poach...? :)



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Posted : 30/09/2008 7:46 am
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Update my post Andy :good:


 
Posted : 30/09/2008 8:01 am
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Nice one, Del!! 8)

These will be for my new tunic (which is still somewhere between here and Shanghai :roll: ) - the hook holes on my old one are incorrect: the back ones are fine, but the front ones are about 3 inches lower than they should be. :blink:



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Posted : 30/09/2008 8:09 am
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I'll post up some pics of my home brew strapstonight - it's easy to do and cost me nowt.
As Dell says, you need to be sure the jacket you are getting has the correct internal structure to take straps (channels in the lining allowing you to thread it up and over the shoulders.
Is it an M37 you are getting?


 
Posted : 30/09/2008 8:15 am
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M42 Heer wool. Just checked the parcel tracker and it's somewhere in Bournemouth!

From looking at the photos on the website, I'm not sure it has the correct lining to allow for the suspenders. My old one looks like it might.

BTW, Chommers, where did your tunic come from?



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Posted : 30/09/2008 9:12 am
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Mines a SueSue 'Sturm'


 
Posted : 30/09/2008 9:30 am
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I was always of the opinion that the internal system was just for the early M36 style tunics. It was to support the weight of equipment without the Y-straps.
It didn't work so well in combat so they went to the Y straps as they do work. In future designs of tunic this feature was deleted as being redundant, the short sewn in hangers are enough to spread the load from the belt hooks. If you are useing the M36 internal suspenders you should not need y straps and vice versa.


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Posted : 30/09/2008 10:20 am
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Here you go - an inelegant but cheap solution as I already had lengths of strap webbing and it's mega strong and doesn't stretch. You will see the 'proper' ones have loads of holes so one strap fits all - clearly mine is made to measure so doesn't need to adjust.


As Poacher says, I'm not sure M42 jackets should have them but meh, you have the correct lining pathways and jacket holes so why not?! (I did erroneously say I had a M37 not M36 but then I have blanco'd the jacket, so that's all right :roll: )

Belt hooks are useful for keeping stuff neat and in place if just carrying a pistol and map case, say, but if I'm wearing MP40 mag pouches they flop forward annoyingly so I prefer Y straps as well to stop that. If you are wearing your A frame then you will need the Y straps anyway of course


 
Posted : 30/09/2008 5:32 pm
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M40 jackets are pretty much the same of course as the M36 when it comes to the basic construction. Most people opt for the y straps so there has never been much call for these internal braces. One of the US dealers sells them, Bill Bureau or 1944 militeria I think.
Collar liners are easier to find and more easily spotted as being worn.


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Posted : 30/09/2008 6:14 pm
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