I'm not so sure about that. At Husky, I shot Peppered in his mesh goggles at 25 metres with my 500fps Tanaka K98 and, I'll admit that it put a little dent in them, but no other damage was done.
Apart from his undercrackers 
Whilst I understand the argument, I'd have though that was unlikely. First off mesh goggles do give somewhat when hit. I've had to push dints out of mine many times. This means that bbs are less likely to break up.
Anyway if they did break up it would imply that there was sufficient force to change the bb's direction as well as destroy it and hence I'd expect any fragments to be sent away from the eye not towards it.
I have been hit many times on mesh goggles in my almost 5 years of using them and have never had a problem.
I only have 2 issues with them really.
1 - They don't protect against powder burns from pyro that goes off in your face.
2 - The cheap ones given out by sites at open days do suffer from the mesh falling out of the frame somewhat.
The teeth issue!
Having read on a forum the issue of someone suing over a lost tooth it made me whince so I went out and bought a rugby gum shield. After running around gagging on it I realised that if you cut them right down so they just cover the front teeth they offer great protection. These coupled with a hat pull right down and some sort of collar or scarf I feel quite at ease from the blat fest hits (PS Got hit right on the middle of the nose on Sunday at eversleigh from 10m`s from somebody who wanted me to surrender at that distance I guess if I had surrendered I wouldn`t have got hit but I did get him first!!!!) Oh the Monday morning excuses I am sure that this well experienced forum between us could produce a book full of them to explain away the welts.
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The mesh mask I'm working on is really only a 1/2 face one like these -

As for the protection issue, I'm going for negating any serious damage and stopping giant welts on the face. But making it so that the player is still identifiable and doesn't become faceless like some masks out there.
As for mesh goggles almost everyone I know uses them because they don't fog up.
The teeth issue!
Having read on a forum the issue of someone suing over a lost tooth it made me whince so I went out and bought a rugby gum shield. After running around gagging on it I realised that if you cut them right down so they just cover the front teeth they offer great protection. These coupled with a hat pull right down and some sort of collar or scarf I feel quite at ease from the blat fest hits
I may try one of those. I've been really paranoid about that happening as I'm always yelling.
(PS Got hit right on the middle of the nose on Sunday at eversleigh from 10m`s from somebody who wanted me to surrender at that distance I guess if I had surrendered I wouldn`t have got hit but I did get him first!!!!)
I had the same experience a few weeks back when I popped out of the undergrowth on a team-mate who didn't answer a challenge.
Took about half a mag at about 20 feet. I held my fire when I recognized him, he didn't. Git.
Had a good few welts on my arm from that one.. He also managed to shoot a button off my smock!
Oh the Monday morning excuses I am sure that this well experienced forum between us could produce a book full of them to explain away the welts.
I blame the welts on bees.
I use a double-gum shield from decathlon. They're in the boxing section. Why a double gum shield and not single? Well the tooth I had shot out was a lower one!
The trick with gumshields is definitely to cut them down to avoid choking on them. If it's just for airsoft then there's no reason not to cut them all the way back to the canine teeth.
fandanglos should be reading this as he had a filling shot out of his teeth ![]()
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at the gulch game, I had part of my front tooth shot out by a tanaka k98, and I was wearing a gum guard,
I staged a fall at school at school the next day, as my parents are not too fond of airsoft, and look for any excuse to get me out of this "unhealthy sport"...
so I now support full face masks.


Just seen these on Arnie's Airsoft News -
http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/ind ... 015af66f4e
Perhaps a reasonable compromise?
silly dummy,
why wasn't he useing eye protection
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Free speech is expensive these days!

I've got one of those masks, and it's very difficult to wear safety glasses over them. Goggles with an elastic strap would be better. I've modified mine, so I can have a smoke while I'm wearing it! It took a point blank 500fps rifle shot as well, which was surprising.
You're right though Ed, the expresionless face can be a bit scary. My wife is terrified of my mask!
(Note, I painted mine white for Halloween!).


























When I want your opinion - I'll tell you what it is!
Maybe with the masks you could just have them green, make a whole green suit and a green gun and look like them old plastic army men we had as kids?
It's been done I'm afraid Karl






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With a little thought and an airbrush you can do some good things with these masks
The effect is even better with the goggles down!


Free speech is expensive these days!

I got one of those shoei full face plastic mask a few weeks back off ebay for CQB in buildings or woodland bunkers. Having had a couple in the mouth, I don't fancy a £500 dentists bill. Tried it on, and they're pretty useless. Shooting glasses don't fit on or underneath without steaming up in about a second, and impossible to wear a helmet with it on. So I thought i'd have a go at cutting it down and painting it flesh colour.
I took the straps off, marked where to cut with a marker and chopped it down with a coping saw and sanded the edges. With a bit of fine tuning got it to fit pretty well. I cut it down low to stop my glasses steaming up and hopefully to stop richochets off the mask going up under the glasses. Drilled 2 lines of holes and filed them out to take the straps, with a bit of thin foam inside the nose. I painted with Humbrol matt enamel model paints and 2 coats of matt varnish. the paint seems to bend with the plastic fine. Surprisingly it's actually pretty comfortable, but in the summer I reckon you'd sweat like a pig.
My kids said it looked really creepy and my missus said you look like an action man, but I reckon at 20 feet it'll look passable, certainly better than a full face. I don't intend wearing it all the time, just stuck it in my breadbag and slap it on when it looks like you're going to need it.






















Ha!! That's bloody brilliant!! 

It's taken years off you mate 

























bloomin eck!
I didn't even notice it in several of those photos. Very nice there.
