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I've just bought a heer winter reverseable parker from Epiq for the cold days that are just around the corner, splinter and white, however driving back from work this afternoon I noticed the trees are just starting to change from green to brown which got me thinking , so here is my question.
Is tan and water/ white more practical.. You only need a cold weather camo parker when it's cold ie. autumn and winter when the leaves are brown, none existent or there is snow on the ground.. So does a splinter and white reverseable do the job, baring in mind spinter is really a summer camo with a predominent dark green colour which would stand out in a British winter unless you where in ever green forests...
I'm aware I'm rambling a bit after a few, so here is my point which is the more appropriate parker for uk winter airsofting, tan and water or splinter.. And yes I know tan and water was 43 onwards and splinter was through out the war and a little more generic. so splinter covers more events.. But at the end of the day if both are appropriate camo.. which is viewed as the best.
My parker is still in the wrapper , so easy to exchange..
Regards Chris.


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Posted : 11/09/2011 8:33 pm
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My personal opinion is that 'best camo' is an academic question. But it's certainly an obsession with airsofters for some reason. No camo works if you move so it's value is in lying in wait. If you spend a lot of time being stationary in concealment then fair dos but for WW2 airsoft I'd say the value of camo uniform is in looking the part.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 8:50 pm
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I'd got for splinter

As CW says, it's actually moving that gives you away, camo is no substitute for good fieldcraft.

A splinter one fits more impressions as well.





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Posted : 11/09/2011 9:08 pm
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I agree with the above and would add that even the most pedestrian WW2 airsoft game has me sweating buckets after half an hour. I can't even wear a cotton FJ jump smock with a tunic, let alone a parka. They might be good for a standing-around living history gig but aren't suited to games.


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 9:10 pm
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I'll add to that, the parka is a great bit of kit for standing around in the safe zone looking smug and warm whilst others (modern) stand shivering, but as B&H says you dont want to be wearing it in gametime, you'll be sweating within 20 mins.





 
Posted : 11/09/2011 10:08 pm
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If you are worried about covering the whole period of the war a greatcoat would be a better bet.
The first parkas didn't appear until mid war, after the first Soviet winter, and they were grey and field grey not camo.
It is also very hard to find the parka worn without the padded trousers.
I guess if it was cold enough to warrant issuing the jacket it was cold enough to need the pants too.
I'm curious as to how you get splinter to have a 'predominant dark green colour' too? What are Epic selling now??? :?


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Posted : 11/09/2011 10:25 pm
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out of interest, Spearhead sell Autumn/Winter and Spring patterns of Splinter camo for their Parkas and Smocks. How 'real' is that ?


 
Posted : 11/09/2011 11:34 pm
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Originally zeltbahns had two sides. One with a grey-green base, one with a tan base. These are often referred to as 'spring' and 'fall' patterns. Sometimes the difference is subtle and was suspended later in the war, both sides using the same grey-green base.
The Germans did not distinguish between the two shades when printing cloth for parkas and smocks. Both colours are seen with variations. On some parkas the background looks rather more green then grey-green.
Not all parkas are made from the same colour cloth throughout. You get a 'patchwork' effect where splinter cloth of different batches gets used to make one garment. Not as common in Heer products as in the thrifty SS, it makes for interesting variation.
What is not 'real' is the spring colour blurred edge parka. The Germans only seem to have made those in the fall/brown pattern. Most original oak parkas are in the fall colour scheme but there are a few examples of the spring variant.


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Posted : 12/09/2011 6:06 am
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As alway, thanks for thae advice.. I'll hang on to the splinter/white one..
Regards Chris.


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Posted : 12/09/2011 8:10 am
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I have tried wearing a white snow jacket (in last winters snow), but even in fairly deep snow it just doesn't work as well as either a normal or disruptive uniform.

As above, the main thing is not moving, followed by not picking spots in bright sunlight....

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Posted : 12/09/2011 11:13 am
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