If the low ammo amount, is to reflect reality, then a 100 or so rounds to a rifleman I reckon is about correct, most Brit soldiers would have 50 rounds or so then be issued an extra 50 bandolier if the command thought it necessary, but a Bren crew would have more as light support. If facing an mg42 in position they would have considerably more, and if not, would send runners to bring it up, or retire from position if the enemy were strong in number.
Running these games with not many participants, the runner system is untenable, who wants to run back and forward all day being a joey for a gun crew! So to me it seems reasonable to have a bit more ammo, also to compensate, for distance and accuracy of Airsoft weapons.
I'm not trying to upset any "applecarts" here just, just my opinion, I will go along with the rules of the day, on ammo limits, and gun Fps.
We can all see where your coming from , I think most of us did or still do modern walk on day airsoft where 300rnd hi caps or for extra cudos 100rnd mid caps by the half dozen are the norm and you can reload till your hearts content ,from that perspective a 150rnd per life limit seems mad , but you can only really understand once you try it , come to two or three games ,give it a fair try ,then come back to this thread and give us your views and we'll listen , my guess is you'll agree with the way we do things .
armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well
Again I'm in agreement with you, My first skirmish experiences were not really to my liking, but did enjoy one or two when with a good crowd, made all the difference, even on the inside cqb arena, with a good team, a good laugh.
I won't just give it one go, I'll give it a few, (maybe not in the winter!) to see how it goes, it's not the rules, it is the company, after being on skirmishes with some gobby, excitable idiots, a together team with the right idea to " play the game" made all the difference.
The limiting is a good idea as long as it's a fair share.
Fairness is over rated. very often one side in a conflict is going to be shorter on resources than another, it's one way of reflecting the bigger picture, like disrupted supply lines. I even played an eastern front game where we had to share a rifle and were given five rounds.
Oh dear, that Eastern front game sounds very Enemy at the Gates "The first man takes a rifle!..."
That film is an entertaining work of fiction
Regards,
Ralph
Fairness is over rated. very often one side in a conflict is going to be shorter on resources than another, it's one way of reflecting the bigger picture, like disrupted supply lines. I even played an eastern front game where we had to share a rifle and were given five rounds.
Oh dear, that Eastern front game sounds very Enemy at the Gates "The first man takes a rifle!..."
That film is an entertaining work of fiction
I've heard they invited Red Army veterans to come an view its screening and they walked out at that scene, could be a tall tale but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true
I've fired a bullet on every continent. Nearly hit someone, too.
After all in the first months of late 1941 to early 1942 alone, the Tula arsenal had churned out over a million rifles and we're falling over the things, not to mention routinely arming pilots, tank crews and PC Plodski.
Sending thousands of front line infantry into action unarmed would make perfect sense...
After all in the first months of late 1941 to early 1942 alone, the Tula arsenal had churned out over a million rifles and we're falling over the things, not to mention routinely arming pilots, tank crews and PC Plodski.
Sending thousands of front line infantry into action unarmed would make perfect sense...
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At the start of operation barbarossa the Soviet Union had 7,000,000 mosin rifles alone... with an army of 5,000,000, not counting any other weapons available. It's worth remembering that however brutal the Soviet regieme was, they still wanted to win. They held the manpower card at the time and they weren't afraid to play it, but there's no evidence to suggest any Red army soldier went into combat unarmed
I've fired a bullet on every continent. Nearly hit someone, too.
There's probably a grain of truth in the story but its most likely a partisan group tale that got blown out of proportion , you have to remember the huge numbers of Russian soldiers that got cut off behind German lines and formed raiding groups/partisans ,they were often poorly equipped but caused havoc to supply lines ,I would not be at all supprised if that's where it came from.
armoury
m1a1 Thompson,sten mk2,mp40,stg44,sterling,mk2 bren gun,lee Enfield no4 mk1,Mauser Kar98, Walther ppk,smith and Weston m10 and Mauser m712
Give me a big enough hammer and a place to stand and I could fix the world.
i'll kill a man in a fair fight or if i think he's going to start a fair fight or over a woman or.......
a problem shared is a problem halved ,but an advantage shared is no advantage at all
if a job's not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well
Very true, Gav. The grain of truth to it seems to come from Barbarossa where a lot of reserve unit were encircled and forced to surrender whilst in the process of activation, hence a lot of unarmed soldiers.
To the average Wehrmacht hoovering them up it seemed like there were equipment shortages.
Matt, can't forget the Winchester repeating rifles they had left over from the Tsarist era, which now go for bat shit amounts on gunbroker websites!
7 million Mosin rifles at the start of the war with on average another 3 to 4 million manufactured per year until the end of the war. Unreal.
Very true, Gav. The grain of truth to it seems to come from Barbarossa where a lot of reserve unit were encircled and forced to surrender whilst in the process of activation, hence a lot of unarmed soldiers.
To the average Wehrmacht hoovering them up it seemed like there were equipment shortages.
Matt, can't forget the Winchester repeating rifles they had left over from the Tsarist era, which now go for bat shit amounts on gunbroker websites!
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7 million Mosin rifles at the start of the war with on average another 3 to 4 million manufactured per year until the end of the war. Unreal.
Those box magazine Winchesters are lovely looking guns! I think I'm right in saying they eventually curtailed Mosin production as they'd produced more rifles than they had soldiers to carry them?
I've fired a bullet on every continent. Nearly hit someone, too.