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(@seidler)
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Help! Can anyone help me? I am trying to drill thru a British Tank/Motorcycle Dispatch riders helmet & I gave it to the guys in the workshop & they cant drill thru it..I am trying to move the chinstrap attachments to convert it into a para helmet...i also tried aralditing loops on but they just came off..

Any help appreciated

Thanks, Seidler


 
Posted : 07/11/2010 10:20 pm
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You need to anneal it before drilling. And/or try tungsten carbide drills.


 
Posted : 07/11/2010 11:06 pm
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Mauser K98 at 300m ......will go straight through it :good:


 
Posted : 07/11/2010 11:10 pm
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But the hole is too big if you do it that way.


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Posted : 08/11/2010 4:54 am
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I dunno. Once you hammer the dent flat the hole will be smaller.


 
Posted : 08/11/2010 8:53 am
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You really need a drill press to apply pressure and a drill bit which is harder on the Rockwell scale than the hardened steel you are drilling. Either a tungsten carbide or diamond tipped drill bit!

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Posted : 08/11/2010 9:33 am
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Tungsten carbide drills won't do it, I have blunted several, as did a light engineering firm I took mine to. The metal will need to be heated up with a blow torch to red hot before you can drill it, but note that this will of course mean it loses some of it's balistic protection. Should still stop a 6mm BB though :)


 
Posted : 08/11/2010 11:14 am
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Hmm, a cobalt drill bit then!!?

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Adolf Hitler, November 1942

"Comrades, Red Army men, commanders and political workers, men and women guerrillas! It is on your perseverance, staunchness, fighting skill and readiness to discharge your duty to the country that the defeat of the German-fascist army and the liberation of the Soviet land from the Hitlerite invaders depend! We can and must clear the Soviet land of Hitlerite vermin."
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Posted : 08/11/2010 11:20 am
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Thanks for everyones advice...I will avoid the K98 tho as i think it will make too much mess and just create more problems to sort out... :)


 
Posted : 08/11/2010 7:44 pm
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you should have procured one of HH's FB versions - easy drilling, easy colouring and lightweight


 
Posted : 08/11/2010 8:50 pm
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you should have procured one of HH's FB versions - easy drilling, easy colouring and lightweight

i wanted to but he's shut up shop...


 
Posted : 08/11/2010 9:11 pm
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AH !! fair enough.


 
Posted : 08/11/2010 9:16 pm
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By "HH" do you mean Heide's Helmets? I though Warren (Shoot 'n Scoot) was going to be selling them.


 
Posted : 08/11/2010 10:59 pm
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By "HH" do you mean Heide's Helmets? I though Warren (Shoot 'n Scoot) was going to be selling them.

I'm sure he will, eventually. We haven't made any for a while due to piss poor weather and lack of daylight hours after a normal day's work. If anyone else fancies having a bash at them, Stu is open to negotiation on the moulds and masters.




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Posted : 08/11/2010 11:15 pm
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They are listed on Warren's updated website: http://www.shootnscoot.co.uk/rubber-and-resin.php


 
Posted : 09/11/2010 7:41 am
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Hmm, a cobalt drill bit then!!?

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No, I blunted a couiple of those :(


 
Posted : 09/11/2010 1:26 pm
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Hmm, a cobalt drill bit then!!?

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No, I blunted a couiple of those :(

Same here,destroyed 3 ,there is no alternative to heating the area you are going to drill to red hot .The helmet is manganese steel it hardens as you try to drill it.
Sold the shell and bought a genuine airborne one ,should have done that before I ruined half a dozen drill bits.


 
Posted : 09/11/2010 2:06 pm
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Sold the shell and bought a genuine airborne one ,should have done that before I ruined half a dozen drill bits.

:rofl:


 
Posted : 09/11/2010 2:53 pm
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A good solution if you're largely skirmishing and not caring that much about living history esque close inspeciton on a display for example is to bolt the chinstrap on to the actual liner.

A fair few in PBI do this.

On a scrimmed helmet you just cant tell unless you look inside.





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Posted : 10/11/2010 2:22 pm
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A good solution if you're largely skirmishing and not caring that much about living history esque close inspeciton on a display for example is to bolt the chinstrap on to the actual liner.

A fair few in PBI do this.

On a scrimmed helmet you just cant tell unless you look inside.

Seconded, the guy I bought mine from did just that and it looks fine for a skirmishing lid.


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Posted : 10/11/2010 7:53 pm
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