NO! ABSOLUTLEY NO NIGHT VISION......................
aaarrrrrrrrrrrggggghhhhhh
you will want a molle vest , plasticuff on yer belt and m4 varient next
please no , leave all night vision at home, eat carrots instead
THIS IS NOT OFFICAL, IM NOT AN ORGINIZER OR ADMIN MOD
i just dont want unfair advantages, like "other" types of airsoft tend to have
Hehe, chill A. Just joshing... 
Scratch that
not in service til feb 45 sorry neil...
I thought Wotan was May 45 ish ? Personally would love ot see a Vampyr in action, although the backpack would kill any advantage and IR system would give.
'Vampir' is a little less discrete than that
Its mahoosive.
If you've not seen it i can only compare it to a dustbin lid size spotlight on an mp44 with a backpack mounted radio size pack to power it on your back.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
No date on the site, i thought it was 44?
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
ok, if some loony wants to make a mock up of that and carry it, fine by me 
i was expecting an ak with a NVG monocular ,gaffer taped on it
"Take that you rotton helping of strawberry flan!"
Joseph Porta to "strawberrys and cream", in the sven hassel book ,ogpu prison
Yes:
If it's Gen 0
If it's the real weight
If its as fragile as the real thing was
If the backpack components are attached to an original frame (got a source for these, only 700 Euro's for one with all the straps 
)
Seriously, NVG is not ideal in an Airsoft CQB situation. You WILL end up with it smashed to bits.
When we were a Kingdom it was run by a King
When we were an Empire it was run by an Empress
Now we're a country we're run by a..........
some of the friends i play with at open days went to ucap recently. several had all varieties of nvg strapped to their helmet. all of them walked into walls with them heh. because of the light settings and textures of walls nvg isnt a great advantage
i dont see why the insistence on the weight being the same our airsoft guns are nowhere near the weight of their real life counterpart! nor do all our guns pass the 'exact replica' test mine and guys mp44's are only impressions, and ak 47s make a regular appearance at our games.
any way....
I am glad to see i have caused panic in the ranks! but it would be an interesting project nonetheless!
...actually looking at it semi seriously it could be made very cheaply, using a swedish rucksak frame as a base...... 0 gen IR viewer is fairly available for about 30 quid ish some IR lcds an old car spotlight, gaffa tape..... and away we go...
Vorsprung durch Blitzkreig !
Speed, aggression and Hugo Boss
the innocent have nothing to fear......[img][/img]
The inisitance on weight is to offset the advantage with a disadvantage.
*everybody* has lighter guns... not everyone can see in the dark.
We're saying that you have to pay for your gains.
The real vampyr was cumbersome and unwieldy and fragile, we'd like t o replicate that.
For the same reason my initial proposals for section radios was to attttach the pmr to a 37 pat large pack with a sandbag or two of dir tin it.
yes you can have coms but you would have to lug them about,
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
For the same reason my initial proposals for section radios was to attttach the pmr to a 37 pat large pack with a sandbag or two of dir tin it.
I don't think that's to bad an idea - to have a radio operator per section, with the problems you'd expect. Is it possible to get real or replica field radios (from the 40s)?
it would still be as bulky.... and cumbersome...
Vorsprung durch Blitzkreig !
Speed, aggression and Hugo Boss
the innocent have nothing to fear......[img][/img]
Not the point.
the real one weighed nealry 20 kilos as a complete unit (13k back pack and over 6 kilo of gun and sight)
Thats a lot for an infanteer to lug about. The weight is as much an issue as the size.
Without a weight penalty your at no more of a disadvantage than someone with a ak wearing a small rucksack or a frame but get big advantages.
Its all hypothetical anyway unless you are intending to build one 
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
The inisitance on weight is to offset the advantage with a disadvantage.
*everybody* has lighter guns... not everyone can see in the dark.
We're saying that you have to pay for your gains.
The real vampyr was cumbersome and unwieldy and fragile, we'd like t o replicate that.
For the same reason my initial proposals for section radios was to attttach the pmr to a 37 pat large pack with a sandbag or two of dir tin it.
yes you can have coms but you would have to lug them about,
And if some one blasts you in the face with a torch then you have had it anyway, you cant see, and you are highlighted.
To get any real viewing from a vampire set, you need a '251 with an IR Spotlight close at hand.
lol
could be tricky getting that down the tunnels
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
You think? I will have to leave it behind then. It was a fully armoured variant with an AA searchlight on the pasenger compartment roof, with a black filter, any ideas what the over all dimensions would be?
I think the i have a pic of a 251 'uhu' somewhere but i thought they were married up with the night sight panthers rather than infanteers.
Pretty much the same size as a normal 251 but about three foot taller...
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
Yep. and 1 lucky shot on the searchlight and either the 251 is useless, or worse, it is flooding the area with "White" light. They were used for general ilumination in conjuntion with all night sights, so they were used with the Panthers and infantry, but not as close to the battle with the panthers at they had theirown IR iluminator.
the modern millitary has to thank the german ww2 development teams for so much
the ak series
the gpmg (m240)
the m 60
the mg3
the mp5 g3 series
the "night vision" concept
"Good Camo smocks"
"Take that you rotton helping of strawberry flan!"
Joseph Porta to "strawberrys and cream", in the sven hassel book ,ogpu prison
Bit of a myth the AK one.
the AK and the mp44 have completely different bolt operating sytems, the AK was based on a soviet wartime design, the only simularity is the shape and thats largely coincidental.
Both amries devleoped intermediate cartridges about the same time too, in fact the Russian were well ahead of the germans with weapons development.
PPSH was far superior to the mp40 and the T34 put the fear of god into the germans, even Guderian said it was the finest tank ever made.
You know the British Army had a completely mechanised brigade with troops in apcs, mechanised artillary and all in the 1930s for 'blitzkrieg' style warfare but it was disbanded as UK theory at the time was that it wouldn't be needed and that bombers had made such formations unusable.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
The AK bolt was actually part-based on the M1 Garand bolt - rotating, I think.
